Council passed a Ben Shoen proposed revision to city code allowing bags to be placed on the curb without being in a tote or can. Public blowback had cost the city customers.
In an unrelated but welcome sign Council Member Garrabrant outlined a list of proposals designed to better market and to improve trash service with an eye towards reclaiming market share which he says is now at about one third of city residents.
And the WDT reports it was the number two in DPW who nominated the department for an award for a Local Achievement Award for redesign and reimplementation of refuse routes....The award was received last week at the NY Conference of Mayors annual meeting in Bolton Landing, near Albany.
The award wa submitted April 9, and while touting the City's "award winning" DPW last night it appears the Gang of Five knew nothing of the award nomination until Mayor McDougall called to ask about who had received the award as she was introduced as the Mayor.
Oddly, while the initiative is appreciated and the job done by refuse workers is too, the nomination came at a time when city staff and Council were considering ending refuse service after the roll out for new rules had sent usage down, leading to the CM claiming the function now "loses" money.
There were accusations of intentional deep sixing city service to benefit private haulers....Accusations from Council Members.
Council intervening may make it alls well that ends well, but this was an interesting set of events.
By the way there was an executive session last night in which the motion was carefully worded compared to the week before. The reference to discipline was in the motion......
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You and fellow democrats intentionally push in-house trash service to benefit public unions. At the detriment of city residents.
Meanwhile, every municipality that is not beholden to public unions, contracts out trash service to companies that specialize in trash hauling. Why? Because it’s cheaper and the service is better.
Coincidence that the award was applied for by the person holding the job that Monaco retired from? Do you remember Monaco? He is the guy who came in first in the primary and lost in the general.
Has your obsession with garbage replaced your fountain obsession?
Cliff has gone all in on his crappy memes. Apparently he's preparing for another election defeat. Time for the meme team to unretire.
I tried to get into the meeting, but Ben saw me approaching and had me removed. Guess shopping carts aren’t allowed inside. Who knew?
The good mayor was busy cleaning graves. Apparently, she has a side hustle.
He’d be a council member. But Watertown can’t have a qualified person. They tear anyone successful apart out of pure jealousy and ignorance. Ask the Dr.
You sound like someone spouting off, with no facts. Your relief valve should be gathering knowledge, not letting off steam by just spewing lame talking points.
Wow, good observation. The wasted winter of 2025. Fountain Talk Radio 1240
So assbackwards, the city buys the refuse trucks, but then wants to do away with the service, they also complain about losing customers when they make special bags and have to buy stickers etc. you want customers to use the service? Make it easy and invisible. No stickers, not special bags. Supply city totes, one time expenditure, get the average of residential of weekly pick ups. Costs, times that by 52 add that to city tax bill. Everyone is a customer. They can even do light business but they are limited to the one tote, so the heavy users would obviously be going to commercial haulers.
This was labor intensive back in the day, it’s not anymore with side loaders.
DPW, PD FD are all city essential services. COW tries hard everyday to make a case to dissolve.
Watertown needs to stop fixing things that aint broke.
8:58, You outlined a “simple” solution that you would have to pay a lot of money to execute…and then hope you hire better than the city normally does.
The better solution…the solution used by most municipalities, is to contract it out to an established successful trash hauling company. “You don’t know what you don’t know” was a phrase invented to describe YOU. It doesn’t matter if its Jeff’s bar business or Cliff’s coupon business…all business take time to learn and manage. You cannot compete with the experience, knowledge, expertise and scale of reputable trash businesses.
You're riveted to every word that Jeff says or types!!🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡
This is the most coherent, insightful, and on topic comment I've read on this blog in a long time.
Petey Monaco is an incompetent know-nothing.
Watertown will be flat broke in a few years once the grid contract ends. Its been 30 years of doing nothing. Still wasting away free power that could sold at 30¢ per KWH. But at least the smart doctor got the flagpole issue reopened twice as “new city business”.
No, Jeff needs to quit saying things are broken that aren’t
10:52 I hear ya, but didn’t we just buy new trucks? And then decided to get out?
And I don’t think it’s as expensive as you think, it’s going to be spread out across every single dwelling, so everyone buys in, which brings the cost down and no reason not to use it. It used to be this way, with at least a driver and two laborers. Side loaders one driver. Your model, the waste hauler needs to make a decent profit, the city needs to break even.
I would need to see the whole picture with all the data, for CoW but here where I live now in 1.5 million pop city, it’s all free. And simple. The small population of Watertown is in just a few blocks here.
I also wanted to add the city has been in waste management side for a very long time probably longer than anyone there that does it as a business. But I do agree great response, but you still were a douche because it is a city function more than a pool or a golf course. I think they got in the weeds and made it harder than it should be. My block was a test bed for recycling way back in the 80’s when I lived there. Case in point the city requires separated recycling and then single streams it afterwards. No reason to do that, we don’t hear one bin.
Garie sounded extra gay today
Even smacking his lips with his lisp
My favorite troll of 2025. Whomever convinced Jeff that the fountain was sold for $400 for scrap.
That guy should be the one getting an award! 🤭
What was funnier, 1:50, Gary believing that all posts mocking him are "from the same little guy", Jeff acting like that was true, or Donnie being a snowflake over someone picking on him?
1:05 Currently 03 to $0.06 per kWh (wholesale-like rate, changes annually) not $.30
8:13, the city does not sell its power to Grid at wholesale, it sells it for 30¢. That means every single wasted KWH of city hydro that gets consumed by city properties, such as old 37watt fluorescent bulbs in the zoo, etc, reduces the cash coming from Grid by 30¢.
He’s got a super-creepy voice. One of those character voices they use in movies where they don’t show the person’s face, just their mouth speaking into a phone. Silence Of The Lambs ~Adams Center vibes.
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