Friday, September 30, 2016

WDT: Council to Consider Snow Jacks for Roof

    A couple years back when I had a metal roof put on the house, I didn't anticipate the piles of snow that would fall in front of the door creating uncertainty every tiime you walk out and leaving more of a pile than I wanted to shovel.
     So this year year I had an awning built to redirect the pesky snow. Now that's a change order of sorts I paid for, and one could argue I should have considered all of this two years ago.
     Of course, I am just a homeowner, not a high paid engineering firm or a high paid public employee.
     So now City Council has to look bad again (been there, done that) as news leaks out of a snow issue at the Arena. It was known about some time ago, but now Council faces a $100K fix.
      I recall during the construction a misplaced support pillar in the middle of a doorway. It's tough on lawmakers who are not really in charge of much and are along for their ride when these thngs happen.
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news03/council-to-consider-another-change-order-to-watertown-ice-arena-20160930

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Although the engineer's & architects contracts are a lesson in responsibility avoidance, if the City's lawyers were on the ball, the column issue should have been on the engineer's nickel. Not certain how likely an E&O Policy is to pay for sheer stupidity but it seems an argument could be made that lack of snow guards on a metal roof in the North Country would be considered an Omission.

Anonymous said...

This is normal for public building renovations. The initial project is done on a super tight budget, meaning no extras. Then a few major items are left out which must be completed due to a safety issue. Its all part of the bureaucratic boondoggle that is public capital spending.

Anonymous said...

Why does it always come down to how high one's salary is with you? No matter what the subject, you always allude to what someone makes. Are you jealous or just insecure?

Anonymous said...

If the current 'lawmakers' hadn't voted yea for this 11 million dollar build out, it wouldn't be the issue it is now.

Anonymous said...

The issue was there before renovations someone missed the boat if this wasn't on the list before it was designed.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that too, 7:40. We all make our own career choices. You chose to run a neighborhood bar. If the pay isn't where you'd like it to be change occupations. Never too late. You are becoming rather cantankerous.

Anonymous said...

When the cow enters into a contract make sure there's no personal issues between the two parties...

Anonymous said...

The good ole arena, the gift that no one uses. Once Macaluso is out that will be basically the end of the arena fiasco and it's "supporters." Then, onto the parks and recs "czar" and then the city manager and let's move forward and try to salvage this mess. The rebuild of the council should allow Mr. Butler the chance to make some progress on this. But, there has to be a re-assignment of the staffing to pull this off. The current crew just does not cut it nor have the skills to.

Anonymous said...

This happened years ago when the new chiller was installed off Earl st.

Anonymous said...

Mayor, Sounds like you were smart enough to only address the problem over your door instead of doing your entire roof. I wonder why the city doesn't simply put jacks on the small section of roof that has a problem with pipe penetrations or over the emergency door and those pipes?

It is not up to the customer to know they are essential, it is the engineers and roofing contractors who should have advised it to the customers. Failing to advise that they are needed is gross incompetence and gross negligence and gross malpractice.

Anonymous said...

740, i as well notice this. it's this type of continuous shot at what people earn that led to the last election blowout. it wasn't like butler hadn't participated in some of graham's pet issues. it is unfortunate. this is the negativity that has surrounded watertown. this negativity is prevalent with the city manager, a lot of the staff, the city attorney. frankly, we need a mass overturn of staffing. we will hopefully get there someday.

Anonymous said...

Right 229, it all started with the director of parks and rec then onto city clerk, then her hubbies needing a job.......