Friday, September 23, 2016

WDT: Call for SLC Residents to Get Their Second Amendment Rights Without Restrictions


      In the Big County, the county judge has taken it upon himself to restrict handgun ownership in a way residents find is different than state law and other counties. Judge Jerome Richards won't issue concealed carry permits as allowed by law to suitably screened persons. Instead he places restrictions on use in an apparent bid to impose his version of gun control.
     Efforts are afoot to legislatively change that but for now SLC residents have a little less Second Amendment than folks in adjancent counties.
  http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/opinion/missing-the-target-judge-richards-needs-to-enforce-the-law-not-establish-policy-20160923

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Get on the stick russ!

Anonymous said...

And the dummycrats think Rain is the problem up there. No she is typical Peter Principle DA like the one before her and the one before before her. Like the one here in Jeffco and the one before her in Jeffco. But that judge Richards isn't fit to clerk for Martusewicz. If there were more democrats like Martusewicz then the state wouldn't be so corrupt.

Anonymous said...

Where y'all been for the last 30 years? Lewis county judges have been doing that shit since Hector was a pup. Got news for you too. Not a thing you can do about it either. Except possibly change Judges. But don't expect that to work either. Judges can't talk abut their political leanings when running for election so you have no idea what you got until it's too late.

You don't really expect the NY City controlled legislature to pass a bill saying they have to obey the law and issue permits do you? No, they like the current bullshit system where the county judges have the final say over the permits just fine. Never mind that the whole stinking permit system is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment anyway. But then how many politicians do you know who give a rats butt about their Oath to uphold the Constitution??????

Anonymous said...

In St. Lawrence County its a matter of a judges interpetation of the law.. The legislature believes they can dictate to that judge but have found out differently.. They support a law to have the Sheriff issue permits but my understanding of the law that passed the Senate it was passed in order to help judges with a backlog due to permit issues. Judge Richards has none.. The most vocal legislator is a guy named Forsythe who ran against Addie two or three elections ago.. This is the same legislator who openly negotiated with the Union representing jail employees who agreed with and shook the hand of union officals on a proposed contract then walked across the road and voted against the contract causing the union to file a unfair labor practice which they ultimently won costing the county dearly..
This legislator owns a hunting club where he has well to do clients come and hunt, drink and give their opinions to each other ..
As for myself I disagree with Richards but I signed the papers with the restrictions on it like everyone else. I disagree with signing anything your not willing to follow. Dont be a hipocrite and sign papers then try to change what you signed to suit yourself. You dont sign them instead you fight them from the get go..
By the way, read the constitution and tell me where the second ammendment gives me the right to carry anything concealed. And the final thing is State Law indicates Richards is right.

Anonymous said...

8:53 - This isn't about the right to carry concealed. Evidently, you do not know what you are talking about as ALL handgun licenses in NYS are for Carry Concealed. The judge, however, is essentially ordering good citizens "where" they can legally carry.

Anonymous said...

8:06, you're a liar. Lewis County, per the Constitution, issues carry permits. And 8:53, signing the papers "as is" is the only option you have at that point in the application process. I'm not sure you are lying, but you certainly are stupid.

Anonymous said...

8:53, no, state law does not indicate Richards is right. And besides, the US Constition trumps state law even if it did. You sound like a real wannabe bendover kinda guy.

Anonymous said...

The Second Amendment is an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and, as such, it only applies to the Federal government. The U.S. Supreme Court has yet to apply the 2nd Amendment to the states through the due process clause of the 14th Amendment as it has with numerous other Amendments.

Until the SCOTUS decides to apply the 2nd Amendment to the states, NY State could pass a law tomorrow that prohibits all firearms in NYS and it would be deemed Constitutional. Hate to give Cuomo any ideas though...

Anonymous said...

942, 1013, and 1115... You are the kind of guys/ladies that hurt gun owners and their argument on these issues. You are the kind of person that rambles and babbles about something you dont and I believe you cant possibly understand.. You cant read and comprehend what you just read.
942.. NYS law tells yoou where you cant carry in this state.. Read Read try and understand
1013.. I only stated what sincere do.. If you dont agree with something dont sign it. Of course you cant read so you didnt understand and yes I am stupid to most but not on this issue.
1115.. Same with you.. Richards is covered by state law period but obviously you were not educated beyond third grade. Quote the Constitution part that gives you the right to carry concealed ..As far as wannabe I cant imagine what I would wannbe at this stage of my life and bendover kind of guy I am as my arthritis really is bad. I,m in my early 80s now but I,ve lived this long because judge Richards has kept firearms concealed from idiots and morons like you guys.

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt in anyones mind that this fight is useless... Its up to the judge and thats that.. Without any change in NYS law he would be a fool to back down. Sheriff Wells will not be able to override Richards.. This law was intended to help judges with backlogs which isnt relevant in SLC. Do you think a laW WILL go into effect that would allow a County Sheriff to overrule a judge.... Wake up.. Also some of these comments come from people who should never be allowed to touch firearms..

Anonymous said...

10:13,

Judge Davis was the last Lewis County judge who issued unrestricted permits. Judge Parker started issuing permits stamped something to the effect of "for hunting and trapping".

Every Judge since has been issuing some form of restrictions on the permits. My understanding the current Judge isn't quite as bad as some of them have been, but a recent applicant told me his permit had been approved pending an investigation to "insure" there were not too many felons living in his neighborhood. If that isn't a restriction, I don't know what is. "The Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Now if the whole pistol permit system is not an infringement of our Second Amendment Right, I'd like to know what the hell is.

1:01,
The Bill of Rights apply to all citizens of the United States and neither the Federal government, State Government, or local government is granted any authority to abridge those Rights by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution for the express purpose of preventing ANY level of government from taking those Rights away. Where in the world did you get the idea that the Constitution only applies to the federal government? And it makes no difference what the Supreme Court says. Any decision they make that is contrary to the Constitution has no legal authority. Neither does any law passed by any legislative body in this country that is contrary to the Constitution.



Anonymous said...

Sorry 8:53 but disagree big time with you. Right to bear arms has no concealed or not concealed wording, just right to bear. Period. I don't know about forsyth view or deal with sheriff, but really wish they would just vote to end road patrol and the high price taxi service. Most views I hear from him or Lightfoot agree with. Probably a little bitter you missed a raise or something, understandable. Just be happy you still got your job or cushy retirement.

Anonymous said...

8:42, don't try to teach them anything. Puddle producers like them are desperate to remain subjects, not citizens. It is not up to a judge to decide rights, it is up to our Constitution. 3:58, you again lie. The Constitution guarantees, until we get one more softball player on the Supreme Court anyway, the right to keep and bear arms. There's nothing there that says you can defend yourself only if you are home watching TV. What part of that do you not understand? Apparently, my third grade education trumps your civil service level. It is dumbasses like you that has turned NYS into the cesspool it is. If your family is ever threatened, your wife raped, your daughter assaulted, please remember to bend over and call 911. Then hope for the best. That's the kind of man you are. Nice. Me, I will respond otherwise. And no judge will make that decision for me. You, on the other hand, can take them to court. If I were you, I'd even get a sign stating you are an unarmed dumbass. But again, a nice guy.

Anonymous said...

Sorry 8:08 but, as much as you think you are right, you just aren't. Take a Constitutional Law class and you will learn just how wrong your perceptions are.

Anonymous said...

10:34, it won't matter much longer anyway. If the Skank wins, we get another softball playing babe on the Court. The fact that the Second is an individual right will be forgotten. So people like you will win. 8:08 is right, and your pretend knowledge of Constitutional Law is typical, but dishonest.