Wednesday, September 7, 2016

WDT: Bring Your Passport to Fort Drum

       Many of us are of the last generation that remembers when you just went places without having to remember your passport or get special licenses.  A trip to O Club on Officers Loop for lunch or on a whim drive over to Canada to spend an afternoon at the Lakeview Manor...
       Now you get more scrutiny going to Drum. Yet they are marketing vacant housing there to non military people. Who wants that kind of scrutiny everytime you go somewhere ?
       I just avoid all these locations and leave my passport in its drawer.
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news03/fort-drum-to-require-additional-id-in-addition-to-standard-new-york-drivers-license-for-entry-20160907

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm with you on this. I haven't been back to Canada since they started requiring passports. I used to visit there at least once per year and drop a few hundred dollars.

It is sad, but the golftards started handing out driver licenses to illegal aliens, rendering them useless as an ID. Somehow, handing them out, magically makes them competent drivers.

Of course we know the real reason they handed licenses out to illegal aliens was so they could illegally register to vote and get free stuff from the government.

Anonymous said...

I have no reason to go on post, so I'm not too worried about it. Frankly, some of Drum's features are a bit overhyped. The "O Club" is nothing to write home about, and even when I was in the service, I never cared to shop at AAFES unless it was a last resort.

That said, I used to have a purpose going on Drum, since I worked for a tenant agency. But then, every year, it became harder and harder to so much as work with the PMO and Post security types that gave passes to those who worked on post. Then you had either MPs or the civilian contract guards working the gate who couldn't keep track of what was going on (I ended up getting pulled over more often than not to sign in at the gate even when I had a pass from PMO). It eventually got to the point where my bosses decided to have a retiree take over the office out there because they probably wouldn't give them half the hassle I was getting.

I feel sorry for every vender, or remaining tenant agencies employees, or visitors for events (weddings, Mountainfest-like events, job fairs, hell, even family members) who has to go through the hassle of just trying to get from point A to point B without a million layers of bureaucracy.

BTW (sidebar)... how much was NYS supposed to be kicking in to fix/realign the Gasoline Alley gate? And if traffic congestion was so bad there, why weren't they opening other gates (at least during peak hours) to alleviate the congestion?

Anonymous said...

You can get an Enhanced Drivers License which serves the same purpose as a passport at the northern border and for most government purposes as it includes verification of identity and citizenship. Most Canadians use passports as most have them as they travel internationally commonly, while more & more North Country people go for the EDL as you carry it anyhow.

Anonymous said...

It's funny, isn't it, 8:08. The dannies love all this documentation stuff but they still oppose an ID to vote. Gee, I wonder why that is.

Anonymous said...

8:08 Canada will not make it's yearly budget.They need you to spend your few hundred dollars. From Passport to drivers licenses for illegals I missed point. Maybe you forgot about 911.Passport less than a few hundred dollars and good for ten years.

Anonymous said...

Why a Passport? Doesn't my Driver's license show I live here and am an American? Do they want me to sing the National anthem too. If they want to check it out, let them run my license plate through the DMV. Military bases are NOT foreign countries. I should not have to be treated like a foreigner to the base that I pay taxes to exist.

Anonymous said...

11:45, you miss most points...just like you miss most fact.
Sounds like 11:19 gets the connection.

Your move ex-lax...tell us what 911 has to do with passports?
Once you tell us the answer to that, I will show you how to connect the dots with Danny's party handing driver's licenses out to illegal immigrants.

Anonymous said...

There is some confusion here. For accuracy's sake. Canada did not change its border crossing requirements. It was the U.S. Congress under the Western Hemisphere Travel Act that imposed the need for secure documents verifying citizenship. Canada was in effect forced to reciprocate as what's needed in one direction will be needed in both for things to work. The documentation requirement was one of the specific recommendations of the 9/11 Commission so was in fact in response to the need for better entry documentation post-9/11. Passports are actually the worst option (though the most used by Canadians because overwhelmingly most Canadians have them whereas most Americans do not) because there is no RFID technology imbedded. U.S. Passport Cards (which U.S. passport holders can readily get for border use) and Enj hanced Drivers Licenses (which NY and most border states as well as Quebec and Ontario offer) are better as you can carry them in your wallet and they actually speed the crossing as a chip brings up the info in the booth in less time than a swiped passport.