Tuesday, September 20, 2016

Packed House Airs Views On Proposed Watertown Rental Law | WWNY TV 7

      The TV 7 version of reality shows a little more feisty opposition to the rental law, but in any case , it wasn't voted on as it wouldn't have passed. Ordinances are routinely voted on the same night as a public hearing.

       In this case it will be on the table....likely for some time, until and if a watered down version is drafted.

      Packed House Airs Views On Proposed Watertown Rental Law | WWNY TV 7 - News, Weather and Sports for | Local News

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm glad that finally there is support showing at City Hall. How many times have they served us wrong lately and nobody shows for support. The HUGE wrongful treatment of our Fire Department, Water Department Supervisor, and the arena. Where was everyone then and now for these issues.
We need to stay strong as a city taxpayer and prove to them they are not making the right decisions at ALL and let them know that. How many buildings requiring inspections have been done lately and are up to date? Many are not inspected and they want to add 70% of the buildings to this already list which is not being inspected. It again, will cost more money to hire inspectors to get the job done, or bite your face and let the Fire Department do the inspections like they did in the past and save money. Your decisions and hatred for the fire department is starting to show how much it is going to cost us taxpayers to Catch Up!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yes a lot of people who get paid to support such laws did show up. The funniest person being the one who told us she had a PHD and lived all over the world. Yet rented an apartment site unseen. Her justification was that Chicago and the Nordic utopias have these laws so she was succesful doing it in those places.

Ha! Can you imagine moving to Chicago and renting based on a picture? No honey, it is not rat holes you have to worry about in Chicago it is bullet holes.

Now if she was indeed as worldly as she claims, she would know there is a rat problem in Chicago. Meanwhile there is virtually none in Jefferson county. And if she traveled to the third world instead of the second world, she would know that rats and a few holes showing daylight are the least of the problem.

And these same illiberals who wine for new laws and fees in the city, go to places like Henderson to stay in their cottages with no locks on the doors and plenty of rodents living in their campy vacation homes.

Anonymous said...

Is this really the Fire Queen Captain full employment program?

Anonymous said...

Whine. Not wine.
You ignorant baboon.

Danny M. Francis (Eyepublius) said...

I said it would be a full house, and it was. Very good show, too. Someone said no way, people don't care. I won't mention any names but HOT LINE show comes to mind yesterday and his initials are, oh heck, never mind.

Anonymous said...

I thought the city was in budget crisis? Isn't that why the fire captains were demoted? Now Jennings says we will just create a new position and invest in all the required equipment. What planet is this guy living on? Totally out of touch with reality.

Anonymous said...

Danny, Only one or two people showed up as John Q Public citizens to speak in favor of the law, the rest were all paid advocates, executive directors, board of dictators and such. The vast majority of people who were there on their on volition, as citizen taxpayers, were there to point out the stupidity of the proposed law.

Anonymous said...

They were there supporting the dog park, said no one ever.

Anonymous said...

What is such the big problem with this issue? Wouldn't renters be all for this law? I clean for realtors and landlords. For the most part, the realtors put their tenants first. On the other hand, landlords are "shameful! I've witnessed landlords seal ALL windows shut, duct tape broken windows, keep non working appliances in their property until rented but not replace once rented, lead paint throughout the apartment, non working heat, holes in the walls, decay steps leading to the enterance, etc...BUT, insist on their $1,000.00 a month rent (not including utilities). I'm all for Jennings! Tenants need a backbone to help stand up for these landlords that take advantage of them.

Anonymous said...

I want to invest in a COW residential property, said no one ever.
Especially the loser beurocrats who want this law, because they know they will never have to bother obeying it.

Anonymous said...


While I have no problem with a program to make rental properties better this one, as proposed by Jennings, is just now well thought out. Does this guy actually do any homework before he speaks? Entering someones private residence without a warrant or permission is just simply unconstitutional.

Have any other options been explored? How about educate the public before they rent so they know what to look for? Adding more people and cost is not in the best interest of the taxpayer. With close to 10,000 rental units in the city how many people will this proposal take? If each inspection takes only 1 hour, done every 3 years, we are talking about at least 2 additional inspectors that do nothing else. We are likely looking at a $100,000 bill for the taxpayers. Where is this going to come from? Does Jennings have an answer?

Typical Democrat. Keep expanding the size and cost of government and provide no details on paying for it. If he is going to propose such a program is it too mach to ask that he also provide some real numbers on the cost and how he plans to pay for it? When Jeff Cole asked him some specifics he simply had no answers. I will be sure to vote this big government liberal out if he is stupid enough to seek another term.

Anonymous said...

7:46 VERY GOOD. They DO NOT HAVE A PLAN. If we look at the rental units in the city, if there is 10,000 and they have to be inspected every 3 years, thats close to 3,000 per year added to the Codes department who already cant do the required inspections on businesses and assembly places. How can you add more inspections (required) when the original can't be accomplished? There is no merit to this and all the doings of city hall as they are cutting and saying there is no money, but the CM and some council members are adding more money and positions as they want with no problems. We can't have it both ways.. There is no money or there is hostility and arrogance shown to employees.

Amigo said...

Doesn't matter what city council has to say, John Doldo doesn't want this law so the decision is final. Why should he or any other landlord be required by law to keep their properties in a state of repair? As long as the rent checks keep coming in why should anyone be mandated to spend any of that income fixing problems with the properties? That's not how you make money. Also rodents are an important part of our ecosystem, they eat waste that could potentially attract mosquitos that spread Zika. Do you want Zika up here? I didn't think so. Give these people a break and let them operate these run down homes as they have for decades.

Anonymous said...


You are missing the point 958. I have already stated that I have no problem with the program, I have a problem with the form and lack of specifics. What ever happened to individual responsibility? BEFORE YOU RENT DO A SELF INSPECTION. This would be easy so long as the tenants know what tools for. If a problem arises then contact the codes department.

Do we really need a whole new level of government? Jennings wants the government to solve all problems and us taxpayers to pay for it. I am getting sick of getting my wallet out every time this liberal opens his mouth.

This has nothing to do with John Doldo or any other person other than Jennings who is pushing it. Just like the arena, if they want it, no matter how much opposition, it will get shoved down our throats. Jennings is a paternalist who thinks he is smarter than the taxpayers. This is a problem. He needs to go and to be replaced with someone with some common sense. Someone with the capacity to develop realistic options and do his homework. No other community is doing an inspection program the way he proposes to do it here. Its is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL and is an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer.

Anonymous said...

No one is for Big Brother coming into their place , they call a home. Why would they be? Even if it is to help. Many of us have one place left they can lay down their head, and not have to worry about No Nose stopping in.

Amigo said...

Here is the solution.... Do the inspections before a new tenant moves in while the house is unoccupied. Any questions??? I let code into my business every year without hesitation and let's admit rental properties are a business so why are they exempt from the code department?

Anonymous said...

This is the rental inspection proposal
This is John Doldo
Any questions???

Anonymous said...

There are so many trashed properties/ and run down houses in this city and I do not care if they are trashed and run down by the renters or the owners.
If the zoning inspectors would just do a drive through , they would find this properties. Also I am quiet sure if they would ask the workers who collect the trash , they would know where this properties are.
The city inspectors are able to drive around and assess properties for taxes, so why they are not able to point out trashed and dangerous run down or neglected properties?

Preacher said...

1.38 they can. But this isn't to do with trashed houses getting fixed. No more than the to many people in one apartment was. It's about one side of the city working up City Hall into the idea if they kiss their butts, they get to stay. But it takes the whole city. There are plenty of older people who can't live in a mansion, but they do vote, all over the City Of Watertown NY. That's what some of them have lost. All house holds matter. There are plenty of people who own , rent, older houses, and they hope to stay ahead of the problems. But in the market we are in, cash is an issue. Plus add the fact that the County helped put up hundreds of cheap houses for rent. Tax free for the owners. Hell that is a great deal for some. Some are trapped into a very bad deal in good old Watertown. They owe big tax money, big money to the bank, and no one wants to live in their houses due to all the nice new places around the city. If I had a budget of $1400.00 a month to rent, I'd take the new housing areas in a heart beat. The City, the County, and the State made this problem. Hurting the little guy some more isn't going to fix it. Stop the hand holding with the rich guys, and work up a real plan for everyone.

Anonymous said...

This is why I moved as a COW employee and many more have also moved. Let us see how many making these decisions live under these rules.

Anonymous said...

No Amigo, rental properties are not a business. No more so than your house is a business. If you are hooked up to cable, phone, gas and electric, then the utility companies are doing business there, so open your door and let us come in and look around.

If you are paying a mortgage then your bank is doing business there. So open your door again for an inspection from us.

If you have insurance on your house, then your insurance company is doing business there, so open your door again and let us look the place over.

If you have a job somewhere (we doubt you do) then you are using your home to house an employee (yourself). so open the door once more and let us inspect.

Anonymous said...

Let the fire dept go around the city every fall like they use to, That was their Job then and as far as i'm concerned it's their Job now. You din't listen to the tax payers on the over spending on the arena that is running in the RED for over $250,000 a year , So don't try and hire more inspectors to look at rentals when you have property maintenance LAWS already on the books.If the city and county leaders (If that's what they are calling themselves ) din't hand out all the tax incentives for contractors to over build the rental market we would not be having this problem now . The city and county are 100 percent Responsible for the condition of run down homes in the city.