Sunday, July 10, 2016

They Asked for Comments....So Here's One

   In a recent OP/ED Times readers were asked to suggest why circulation is dropping and newspapers are struggling.
    Broad topic but I submit as evidence today's front page.
     An enormous above the fold photo of a building under construction with the curious headline "Ungraceful aging."  Read on? guess you have to as the photo and headline tell you nothing.

      Turns out the story is about aging stocks of public  housing and the challenge of maintaining them.
      Perfectly worthwhile story, the kind of lengthy piece only papers can provide. What I didn't see was anything about Watertown's 50+ year old high rises.
       These kind of set-piece fillers often occupy large expanses of the front page and among the handful of customers who peruse the paper I leave on the bar every day is the age old question, "where's the news."
        In the past , I always thought reader's panels more closely resembled 'amen corners'.  So, If Perry is sincerely interested in input, it would be more spot news...more sizzle...less canned fillers and fewer editorials that state the obvious.
       On the positive side, there are good photos, box scores, and the food critic.
Watertown Daily Times | Housing agencies stretch dollars to maintain low-income housing complexes

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

The food critic is good? No way! They need to replace her with a small skinny satiated critic. Big hungry people like everything you put on the table in front of them.

As far as the story goes. Its not just the teaser headline that sucks, which was apparently crafted to hide the true content, in order to trick readers into reading the boring story. Its the fact that they picked that story for news in the first place. The story belongs buried inside page 20.

Anonymous said...

My family subscribed for 65 years. Never again. I sometimes read the ones that people throw away. Letters did it for me. Needless editing and dishonest explanations about why and how things are printed.

Anonymous said...

I think it should be legal for people to walk into the Speakeasy every day, and steal alcohol. It would soon become known all over town that one has to merely walk in, and whatever they want, is free.

Thus it is with newspapers. For profit operations like NewJunky compile product that is not their own, diseminate it to the masses in a format that sells ad space, and then gloats about how well they are doing, vs the firms that the steal their product from.

Then blog-eds like this pop up as an attachment or stand alone, demeaning the fact that legitimate media doesn't have enough money to hire more local reporters.

I guess theft is the way of the world. It started with music, and who knows where it will end. But to complain about something that you are stealing? Come on.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the 'papers' are failing because the reporters stopped reporting about 20 years ago and they became commentators. Their job is to report the news not comment.

The TV stations also either can't afford to report and just show the same news four or five times in a row!

Anonymous said...

And you did not read any where in the article Robare and the largest public housing in the NNY, Watertown Housing Authority. Funny but I did

Jeff Graham said...

Hey 206.I linked to their stories for the purpose of discussing the topic or content. I don't make anything off it and if they request I don't mention or link to their product, I will oblige. In a market devoid of original reporting, they could drive the train but in many cases choose not to.

Anonymous said...

And 2:06, I paid for the Times for years. They changed into something I didn't recognize, or need.

Anonymous said...

Never, Mayor. Intelligent people read several papers each day, and always will.

Anonymous said...

You've barely been in the journalism business for how long, but yet you opine constantly on how everyone in the business is doing it wrong. Opinions are like...well, you know the rest.

Anonymous said...

These public housing agaecies are "dumping grounds" for political parties whose friends need jobs, take The one in West Carthage, Philly...

Anonymous said...

Jeff now practices "journalpinion" while complaining that other media shouldn't be doing the same, becuase they charge for it.

The whole issue is less about what is said, then about how to say it for free.

Yes, the masses are all a Twitter waiting to hear yet another opinion about what may very well be another opinion.

Anonymous said...

Graham, Perry asked for suggestions, you gave em one,fair enough. Here's my two cents. The WDT seems content to print the news, but not do any investigative reporting to get the story behind the news. Example- a WDT news report tells of Alex Bay Chamber of commerce refusing a local vendor a spot in a festival in the Bay. What's the real story??? Here's a tip for the WDT reporter. Search- Ron Thompson,chamber president, outspoken critic ofThousand Islands SASS initiative. Search -Steve Ritigliano, outspoken critic in opposition to industrial wind project in Chaumont, supporter of SASS initiative. Key words- political retribution, discrimination, small-minded local parochialism,and influence interjected into community affairs.

Now there's a story

Anonymous said...

9:35, given your comparison, you sound more like an opinion than a person. Graham has proven his acumen and that he has a better nose for news than anyone in the area. He a a wildly popular HotLine host and writes a wildly popular blog, that is the go-to source for what is going on from local politics to world politics.

This "theft" that you say takes place, is actually a link, which drives traffic to the pathetic news sources that folks would not otherwise visit.

Anonymous said...

Jeff, tell the truth, you’re a little bit jealous because Perry is a much better writer and journalist than you are. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a bar owner but what happened to your journalism career anyways?

Oh… and speaking of “sizzle”, are you planning on a car wash this summer with the scantily clad young ladies? Also, more peanuts on the bar can’t hurt…. preferably mixed.

Anonymous said...

10:51 - really, is Ron Thomson the president of the Alex Bay Chamber of Commerce ? You should tell him that, and maybe he can get a raise. The last I heard he was a volunteer who also is the largest private employer in the islands.
I know that doesnt mean a lot to the nipplers, but beleive it or not there is still a need in this country for private employment, and the subquest attention to detail that must be given to those who pay their business and property taxes.

Anonymous said...

9:35 didn't reference a theft, 10:53. Maybe that's the problem, your reading skills or lack thereof.

Anonymous said...

9:35,
Those sites that are linked to generate revenue from ads on their page so it actually benefits them when pages link to them.
Speaking of generating revenue, I can't believe the wdt gets paid by google to host those surveys that everyone answers randomly.
And one of my biggest issues with the wdt is their lack of accuracy and lack of details due to lazy reporting. I can't tell you how many articles I've read where everyone at the local diner knows important details that they left out. Or where they don't even do basic research or attempt to get recent photos or quotes.

Jeff Graham said...

303 I understand journalism didn't work out for me as you think it did for you. But, someone who has run a business and supported themselves off it for 31+ years is hardly someone you should be criticizing.

Anonymous said...

7:33, are you dannie? because you live in his reality, where everyday is opposite day. Only in his mind, could the following passage be construed NOT to reference a theft:
" I guess theft is the way of the world. It started with music, and who knows where it will end. But to complain about something that you are stealing? Come on.

Anonymous said...

OOPs… Jeff seems annoyed… must have touched the wrong nerve. Sorry you took it the wrong way… you were asking for comments and I gave one.

Thin skinned much?

Anonymous said...

3:03, I hear there will be a car wash with scantily clad women working. Your daughter will be working the times. Wifey applied but who's kidding who?

Anonymous said...

4:39 Yeah, big deal so he's only the treasurer of the chamber ,not the pres. He was the spokesperson for the chamber in the article, and you can bet his opinion carries a lot of weight with the group.Point is, it's crappy local politics that the WDT seems willing to gloss over or ignore, by not investigating thoroughly.

Who are you, Thompson's brother?

Anonymous said...

I guess now that they have fired BHS, when she had two articles in the can, maybe they should rename it Big Hungry Perry!

I wonder if money really was the reason, or it was done in retaliation because the WDT didn't think the area restaurants were providing enough advertising revenue?