Friday, July 1, 2016

Monument Matches Park Design

   This great picture from Aerial Image of NNY does more than show the Monument ceremony from above. It shows how the Tenth Mountain Division marker fits into the original design of Thompson Park.
     In cooperation with then City Planner Ken Mix the symmetry envisioned by Frederick Olmstead was maintained.
Aerial Images of NNY
 
        Several hundred people were present for the dedication of the Monument dedicated to the Tenth Mountain Division, its members, Fort Drum and the North Country.
        Thinking back to the original suggestion, the end result is impressive.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow! There must be at least 30 maybe even 35 people there, (if you count the fire department on overtime). Good to see the community supporters this as much as we keep telling you they do (not at all).

You just don't get it. It is not the design that the good citizens object to, its the fact that it doesn't belong there that we object to. It doesn't belong there anymore than a dog park belongs there.

BTW...it doesn't take an Olmsted to design that simple landscaping and monument, which looks like a million other monuments and landscaping.

Anonymous said...

Mr Graham, did you politic at all while you were up there for opening the park till 11 or 12 p.m.? It would seem with all the nice lights and all the money that has gone into it that that would be a nice thing to do for the citizens. Just a suggestion, I think it would be a good idea because as some have pointed out what is the point of having lights if you can't go up and look at it.

Anonymous said...

Didja see Dannie, puking the party line? Funny thing is, the military votes conservative. If their voice mattered, we wouldn't have a criminal pants suit for a president. That's why the Donkey's sued last time around to throw out tens of thousands of absentee votes from overseas. Dannie must have served in a different military. He loves lawyers and party more than his pretend brothers.

Anonymous said...

Looks a hundred percent nicer than a dog park.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, not impressed in the least. But keep telling yourself that.

Anonymous said...

Now you know where to put fencing for a dog park.

Jeff Graham said...

402- I had three votes to open it later and then Councilman Jennings bolted. Council Members Butler and Macaluso never supported later hours.

Anonymous said...

Fort Drum is not about the 10th Mountain Division. There are several other units serving there longer. Does anyone realize that with a phone call the 10th could be moved to another base for unit(s) now in Europe?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for responding,when will our electeds realize they are not our parents,and trust us to be up to eleven or even midnight without causing a riot.Seems very stick in the mud,dullish kind of thinking to me.

Anonymous said...

Bingo 3:45!!

Anonymous said...

There is more to symmetry than the mathematical criteria. In everyday language symmetry refers to beautiful proportion, balance and a sense of belonging.

The Olmsteads would cringe, at both your interpretation and the infringement this monument represents to their original intent for the Park.

It's your blog though, so go ahead, distort the reality for your purpose.

Anonymous said...

Who are you to speak for the Olmsteds, sport?Do you have some mystical connection to the dead,are you Whoopi freakin Goldberg or something?Don't presume to tell us that you know what they would think or feel,you don't have that ability, no matter your self inflated view of yourself.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Graham, can't fault you for being politically correct and trying to make the best of an emotionally charged issue, but honestly ,you've completely misjudged the intent of the Olmsteads ,by implying that simple geometric symmetry is all that is required to make this monument an appropriate use of the Park. It seems a mistake some of your readers make as well.

The Olmsteads use of geometric symmetry was intentional. It creates an unspoken atmosphere of order, balance and proportion designed to complement the same elements of nature. The order of nature, within each and every diverse ecosystem is undeniable and provides the observer a sense of comfort and belonging to that order. The Olmstead's Parks were designed as a place of solace and refuge from the disorder of everyday life. It's why a zoo, or even a community pool are appropriate uses, whereas a monument to our military institutions and our fallen heroes is not. In fact ,this monument represents a direct contrast, and intrusion to the Olstead's purpose.

The geometric symmetry you applaud, while at the most is ommendable, provides very little cover for this inherent contradiction.

Anonymous said...

9:30,don't be lazy. Google Olmsteads and read a perspective on their designs and philosophy insead of spouting off in mindless rebuttal.

Anonymous said...


Nothing against the military, but this huge hunk of stone is not in keeping with the character of the park nor would it have been a part of Mr. Thompson's wishes for his park. Mr. Thompson did not include ANY monuments in his original land grant and this was done deliberately. He also very deliberate in his wish that there be no commercial ventures there. A golf course and zoo (that charges to get in) would never have satisfied Mr. Thomson either. In fact, the location of the monument was specifically designated by him to be the site of 360 degree lookout / observatory that never came to fruition. Ironically, a dog park would have been more in keeping with his wishes than a monument.

I just wonder what will become of this monument should the military every decided to downsize or leave Fort Drum. Look at Plattsburgh with their plane monuments to the now defunct Air Force base. These are now a moment to a foregone part of their City's history and only serve to remind the residents of jobs and opportunities lost. A real shame.