Tuesday, July 19, 2016

Firefighters Claim They Were Directed to Work in Garden | WWNY TV 7

    In the ongoing public relations battle between smokeeaters and the Third Floor, count this a win for management.  The fire union boss is claiming his members were told to work on that community garden being built behind the Emma Flower Taylor Station on Massey Street.
    The charity project is to promote the substance abuse effort.
Photo: WWNY
     Complaining about helping out does not advance labor's cause, as it buttresses the belief that unions take and take.
      Grievances and the lawyer full employment they bring are not appealing to a public not guaranteed the pay and benefits public employees receive.
       This grievance seems a loser for labor even if the ruling goes their way.
Firefighters Claim They Were Directed to Work in Garden | WWNY TV 7 - News, Weather and Sports for | Local News

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Actually...its the first time the fire union made a good point.
The garden is stupid and city employees should not be directed to or allowed to work in it on company time.
You would think we were living in the dust bowl or the great depression, the way these do-gooder gardeners act. The truth is clear to see, just go out after dark on the first of the month.

Anonymous said...

Hey why not require them to be visible so we the taxpayers get to see
what they are doing when not attendingfires.

I don't want them working on our dime for their own business. No fixing meals instation. Any meals should be supplied by an outside vendor. I would like to know about meals, do they pay or is a certain amount deducted weekly for their meals?

Spread the money around to the unemployed.

Anonymous said...

But gardening is not what we pay them to do and I agree, out of their scope of work. I dont blame them, why would they want to help Mr. jennings after he publicly stated his hatred towards them. Bet Jennings isnt out there getting is soft hands dirty

Anonymous said...

Don't they do enough to help substance abuse with all of the over doses they tend to? Just look at the police blotter from Sunday night. Looks like they went to 5 over doses.

Anonymous said...

It is beyond the scope of their work. Give me a break. They sit and watch tv most of the time. Why do you think so many are good cooks, nothing else to do.

Anonymous said...

Wahhhhhh....Wahhhhhh....Wahhhhhh

Anonymous said...

438..
After dark on the first of the month what happens. Do you turn into a pumpkin or possibly a fairy... I bet I know which

Anonymous said...

It would seem that the firequeens would WANT to help out on a project like this. I don't understand these people.

Anonymous said...



I do not believe that the firefighters mind at all working on community projects. I know that may of them are volunteers, in one way or another, in the community. Some them serve on local boards, many are involved with MDA, CAPC, DPAO, and I know that they just took many disabled kids to the fair. I think that what they object to is being treated like S*IT by the city and then asked to do a favor for them. This hole thing is a mess and I am so sick and tired of the constant back and forth. Lets get this thing to the courts or wherever it is going and get this done. Steve Jennings is a terrible councilman and I can not stand to hear him talk. He is so hostile toward the firefighters it is unreal. Lets get someone else in there please. JENNINGS OUT!!!!

Anonymous said...

Heard Cody Horbacz on with Glenn Curry about this earlier tonight. Cody said the fireman don't do anything anyway, so might just as well move dirt. I can't believe someone this naïve is on the city council.

Anonymous said...

I'm not with the firefighters again on this one, but I can see someone "injuring" themselves while working on the garden, and then it's workers comp, and yada, yada, yada.

Anonymous said...

Hog Wash ! It does not hurt to help out in a community garden for a hour or two. I see from the picture the military is not complaining . And with the fire dept It all boils down to the city residents CAN NO LONGER AFFORD year after year property tax increases, Times are changing and we need to cut back and consolidate whether some people like it or not.

Anonymous said...

Jennings is not a terrible councilman 637. Bout time the city take on these jokers. Suppose you don't mind when the firemen are hostile as you call it. Why don't you run for the job?

Anonymous said...

Next they can plow streets in winter on there down time that way they can lay off at the dpw.

Anonymous said...

Next they can plow streets in winter on there down time that way they can lay off at the dpw.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Jennings help with the garden? Ummmmmmm no not unless it's for a camera opportunity. Why dosent the mayor and city manager come out and lend a hand? After all they are the leaders in our community.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Jennings and councilmen Walczyk and Horbacz did help put in the garden 10:58. And there were no cameras. Did you help?

Anonymous said...

Councilman Horbacz proved his own ignorance on the Glenn Curry Show today on this topic. He has no grasp of reality of contract bi-laws or local government management.

Anonymous said...

5:25, no one hates anybody. Control your hormones. 6:37, they are well paid, with great benefits and a fine retirement program. They are not being treated badly, as you so stupidly claim.

Anonymous said...

If they have time to do Garden Work, there may be more on shift than needed ?

Need to look further on men on shift ?

Suck it fireman and do your jobs.

Anonymous said...

This issue has nothing to do with gardening its all entirely about the union labor contract. Can union members be forced to perform work outside their contract while on duty? The simple answer is no work outside the union contract should not be performed. However, the FD decided to make a mountain out of a single small community garden. This is wrong issue to make public, how could the fire dept not realize that? Whomever is in charge of public relations for the union needs to be fired!!!

Anonymous said...

Wow, I can see there are a lot of fire queens commenting on this thread...

Stop acting like school children and be proud you actually did some good in the community.

Everyone's sick of your crap.

Anonymous said...

The firemen come across as a bunch of WHINY Babies ! They are paid handsomely and are certainly NOT overworked .

Suck it up and GIVE back something to your community ., you have enough time to sit around and think up ways to disrupt . I give Jennings credit for calling these malcontents out .

Anonymous said...

It's funny the comments about fireman not volunteering, and the great pay, and retirement, all kidding aside, Your elected officials on the state level are on the retirement system, Certain members of council are on the state pension system, so their election on the council will enhance their pension, The fact that the union stood up for itself and its members is a great idea, the COW is always hostile when union members stand up for themselves, if you remember the Parks and Rec situation, the COW paid almost 40K in back pay, and then the COW had to reappoint the person to a like job, don't blame it on the fireman or DPW, or water employees, the COW treats their employees like yesterdays dirty laundry..

Anonymous said...

The union proved themselves to be exactly what they are, a whiney bunch of Prima Donna's.
More than likely the complaint stems from the fact that they were interrupted during their nap time or when their favorite talk show was airing.
These guys are living proof that unions have outlived their usefulness and are the cause of the absence of good jobs in the USA.

Nothing would please me more than having the city shit can the whole lot of the worthless, self serving bastards and start over from scratch with contractors or a volunteer force.

Anonymous said...

Cody has a small pens and is over compensating.

Anonymous said...

1129 For some of the past and present Council m3mbers who are county or state employees, the amount of extra pension is as much as a quarter million over their lifetime, depending on various factors.

Anonymous said...

I read a post on CL's R&R that called Councilperson cody h, and Stephen j, two turds in the city's punch bowl. You know what? I have to agree, given the way they have been acting lately.

Anonymous said...

Classy 4:46

Anonymous said...

Anyone who reads rants and raves needs their head examined. Says a lot about your judgment.

Anonymous said...

Says a whole lot more about cody's lack of judgment 7:46.

Anonymous said...

Cody has a big mouth, too bad he doesn't make any sense when he opens it though.

Anonymous said...

You read a post or wrote a post 4:46? Sounds like braggin' to me.

Anonymous said...

How does Watertown taxpayers feel about a partial fire department? I heard someone mentioned that earlier this week. The town of Watertown has a partial fire department. The fire department really pissed off several Watertown taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

So if there was a "partial" Fire Dept. would the tax bill be partial? where does it end?

Anonymous said...

The tax bill would surely be impacted in a positive way. That department costs millions!