Saturday, July 23, 2016

Dannemora in the News, But No One Got Out This Time

   The inmates are upset at Dannemora and in disturbances this week an inmate was stabbed and guards say they were threatened.
http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2016/07/upstate_ny_prison_lifts_lockdown_ordered_after_coup_against_the_guards.html#incart_river_home

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

The story is written from information from a union represenative. I would like to hear the administrations side, then the inmates side. tensions have grown in recent months throughout the system with inmate threats because of guard beatings, and abuse. Namely in the Ogdensburg Correctional.. The union must help curb this but rather Michael Powers the union president claims everything is the inmates fault.. Local newspapers have talked to inmates, guards, families of both and administration and union officals and have confirmed that these beatings do take place along with a variety of illegal activity..
This job is not a tough job. Its a good job with great pay and benefits and no one should think they are forced to take this job.. They want it.. Now you have it do the job right and you might find out its not as tough as your actions in the end make it. The unions defending of liars and thugs is wrong..

Anonymous said...

Hacks, turnkeys, the man, etc etc are called these people we have been told to call Corrections Officers.. Alot of these people are just one step from changing places with the people they babysit and alot of these inmates are not as guilty as some gaurds of crimes.
The biggest share of these guys are great and very proffessional and veiw this as a job with good pay and good benefits and do their job in the same manner but the bad ones ruin the reputation of the rest.
Management employees make the rules. It dosnt matter what the rules are they are to be obeyed by both inmate and guard and its not the place of the union to set standards and make policy.
Its not the unions job to protect these bad guards in a manner such as lying about conditions that dont exist lying about what happened during events such as inmate beatings. Dannamora has become known for its guard abuse along with Ogdensburg Correctional and I,m sure many more... The union should be protecting the guards rights and not making up false stories about what happens.. The Times recently checked out incidents in Ogdensburg which were denied by Michael Powers the president of their union. The Times checked with management, inmates, Officers, and retired Officers and only then did it come out these thing happen on a regualr basis.. No one knows yets the outcome of the events in Ogdensubrg but its certain it was not as Powers described it.

Anonymous said...

We can only assume, 7:26, that you are or were a guard because you state "this job is not a tough job". Otherwise, how would you know? Maybe you just don't have the guts to "babysit" criminals. Thank god we have people that do. Do you think guards go to work looking forward to inmates that have nothing better to do with their time than complaining and starting fights? What do you expect tgeir families to believe?

Anonymous said...

Obviously a slanted story coming from a union rep . This particular union LOST its credibility last year when all their incompetence , stonewalling and sleeping on the job was exposed for all to see . IT is a job that is overpaid for the value added .

Anonymous said...

People have all kinds of misconceptions about what a CO job is like. Unless you are there, you don't know. It is by nature one of the most secretive jobs around. The people who say there is no work involved are basing on hearsay and judging a job by irrelevant standards. Sure, you don't load truck, carry stuff, or have the pressure of deadlines and a profit motive. But the that job has its own set of stresses and dangers. It's not just the danger of violence inside the prison. Most focus on that and that may not be the toughest part of it. When you work in there, you deal with constant attempts at manipulation and subtle force. It may not (or it may) be a gang fight or a stabbing or an attack on staff or other enjoyable plots, but the CO's are constantly exposed to the most negative environment most could ever imagine. This takes a toll in other ways. Alcohol, damage to relationships, and the sometimes failure to be able to flick a switch and turn off the vigilance when leaving work isn't easy. These folks are some of the best people you could ever know. You pay a big price for working in that environment. And it's not all a confrontational balance. They have counselors and such, but they most are charged with paperwork. It's the CO's that deal with inmate family matters, personal matters, and thoughts for their future. They in the only ones in the front lines. It says something when you realize the most honest, true advocate an inmate will ever have is their CO. If they had that on the outside, they likely would not be in this situation. So give the CO's a break. Think it through. And if one moves in next door, remember this. You couldn't have done much better for a good neighbor.

Anonymous said...

1211. Yes I was a officer years ago. I am 81 now and retired. We worked with less than half the force you have now. We came in on our shift and did the job that was assigned to us and didnt cry about it constantly. We didnt have 25 year retirement any age like you have. We didnt make the money you did. The inmates didnt have the programs they have today and had much more free time on their hands..
We were told and soon learned these guys for the most part are people who have made mistakes and now are paying for it. Its not your job to punish them again, as a judge already did that. I was told treat them as good as they treat you. It worked. In 31 years on the job I was only involved in 4 incidents which were serious. You guys get to work forty hours and get endless time off besides. You have a liar as president of your union who defends you to death but really only makes things worse you know. The bad apples ruin the job for you in the end.
The job gets called babysitter because thats what you do. What else should it be called. Only you guys complain about what your called. Your need for recognition shows the lust for power you find necessary to live. Records show you line of work creates many problems at home but not from stress rather from you becoming control freaks on the world around you..
Wake up and smell the roses. You have it made in the shade so start by straighening your union out. Get rid of the bad eggs and start treating people like yu want to be treated including inmates.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to the previous poster for his honesty and strength of character,THIS IS EXACTLY the kind of person that uld be leading that union .THE GUARDS TODAY ARE SEEN by many AS GREEDY.LAZY.and incompetent cryasses who screwed vup at DANNEMORA ad other smaller incidents,then stonewalled. The IG