Tuesday, June 7, 2016

Things Get Tense During Meeting On COR's Mercy Project | WWNY TV 7

   I remember when COR first wanted to develop the Mercy site,  city staff was poised to worry about whether they could get a sign permit fee for the sign announcing the project....Now it's a traffic impact study they want. Good grief.

    I hope there is traffic. Traffic means prosperity.

    Next we will have an argument over shrubs.

    Things Get Tense During Meeting On COR's Mercy Project | WWNY TV 7 - News, Weather and Sports for | Local News

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Stupid...because none of the tenants will have cars.

The much bigger issue is that no more housing is needed in this county. This project will exasperate the zombie home problem in the city and the glut of homes in the county that sit stale and unsold on the market for months on end and even years.

The other issues is that this proposed project is ugly and cheap looking. Look at what Aubertine Currier has designed for Clayton as examples of what should be built there. Also, this space should be put back to use for healthcare. Healthcare is the only thing the city can offer. Turn it over the Samaritan before every last doctor is on outer Washington Street in the TOW.

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Anonymous said...

The city will screw it up like everything else they fo

Anonymous said...

Or the discussion could be centered around the "Buffalo Billion"....No more no-income apts...........

Anonymous said...

Nailed it, Mayor. Let's go already!!!!! People will figure it out.
Sheesh!!

Anonymous said...

You are the one who put all the unelected planning board members on the board so they could squabble over shrubs and unneeded traffic studies. You are the one who passed a budget with twice as many planers as the city had during the Fort Drum heyday boom.

Want to know something funny? The city thinks they are in the drivers seat...and they are in one sense. But It is COR's choice, and only COR's choice, if they want go on the ride or get in a shorter line for a more fun ride. They could easily sell the land or just sit on it for ten years. They could easily take their money time and talent to another city like Ogdensburg and wait for you to beg them to come back.

Anonymous said...

It's the same story again and again here in the Empire State. We have so much government we can't flush without a permit. Between the planners, the architects, the politicians, the DEC, the DOT, the zoning people, the city council, the engineering dept, duh Johnsons, unions, and financiers, there is no wonder we are the armpit of America when it comes to any progress at all. But we like it this way. Most of us are employed by this monstrous system in one way or another. We think our kids will get a job sucking this machine. We think we're superior to the rest of the nation because of it, as it were. We aren't, but the important thing is we believe in ourselves.

Citizen Watertown said...

I am interested in who will be occupying the Commercial space? Does COR have a relationship with some retail stores that will move into the new space along Arsenal Street? I am worried that the down town has so so many vacant store fronts and hope that we are not creating more vacant commercial space.
I am also worried about adding apartments to our already failing rental market. Not sure that adding that many units will help anyone.
Lastly, I am worried about Steve, I can't keep my pants on from the Y being on any governing body. Other than the fact he is married to Nancy D's daughter, he is unqualified in every other way. Have you ever tried to have a conversation with him, can you say Neanderthal? Scares me to think that he is making any major decisions for the city.

Anonymous said...

And whats wrong with Making them planting trees and shrubs to make the area more attractive ?? No one in the city wants to look at a concrete jungle. You are quite aware that the majority of tax payers would rather have a city center park there then another Brick And Mortar Monstrosity . Just another case of the fabulous Four not listening to the residents of this city.

Anonymous said...

Just a minute here,why is this traffic thing and the buildings being built close to the sidewalk suddenly an issue?Didn't they study this stuff beforehand,didn't they give the city plans for what was going up? If I want to put a deck on my house,they are all up in my business,wanting to know what it will be built of,dimensions,etc.,and now we are supposed to believe these issues on a multi million dollar project are sudden surprises?Where was the planning and engineering dept on these issues before they approved the demolition?

Anonymous said...


This scaled back version of the proposal should be compared to the original design. This is not what what was proposed, this project will not be the shot in the arm the area needs. What happened to the original design? We do not need any more housing. What we need is a venue that can bring people downtown and encourage them to spend money there. The death of downtown continues.

Anonymous said...

This is why smart developers don't demolish and clean up a site until they get approval to build. Once they invest millions in demolition and asbestos clean up, then the draconian shrub police are free to squeeze the investors.

10:22, what developer has ever proposed a project that includes no trees or shrubs? As we all recall, when the industrial Air Brake got their approvals, they included plenty of trees. But they didn't propose enough of them and in the right spots to make the tree police happy, and the city made a big deal about it. BTW...did you notice Jake built his new business outside of the city?

Anonymous said...

This is the same planning board that brought any sort of development on Washington st to a grinding halt.
To avoid further disappointment I wouldn't expect much out of them.
They should stack up some old tires and tow in a couple of disabled vehicles to keep the Mercy site on a par with Washington st.

Take pride that your legacy lives on.

Anonymous said...

Cow is more concerned about their names and prestige then representing sound judgement to advance the city. This reminds me of the old keystone cops movies of chasing your tail .

Anonymous said...


We seem to have a planning board that does not understand how to work with local developers. Could this be why most development takes place outside of the city? Maybe we should change their name to the anti-progress board. This is not the first time this unnecessary board has put up barriers to development. Isn't this why we have a planning department? How much traffic did a huge hospital cause? Time to abolish all of these know nothing boards and commissions. Plus, the COW seems to like doing studies for every issue anyway.

Anonymous said...

These positions are appointed so someone feels important. They are more concerned about status and not progress. Leave the COW.