Friday, May 20, 2016

Union Chief Says Ill Will Partly a Result of Pre-Election Spurn

    In a low key and reassuring style the head of the firefighters union told Jeff Cole this AM, he thinks there are unstated agendas at City Hall and suggested the Mayor was disappointed that a pre election meeting with the union didn't produce an endorsement.
     The endorsement didn't matter as Mayor Butler won easily and now Dan Daugherty and the Mayor are squaring off in a PR battle that has city residents either incensed or scratching their heads.

http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/Is-There-An-Agenda-At-City-Hall-Watertown-Firefighters-Union-Rep-Asks--380238011.html

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm still laughing about that call to the hotline the other day. "Do you know the nature of fires, Mr Mayor?" What a complete fool.

Anonymous said...

I think it's a leap for him to say it's retribution for not endorsing Butler for mayor. Obviously the endorsement didn't matter because Butler won the election by a large margin. Believe it or not, the voting public voted on more than just the FD issue.

Anonymous said...

Dear Jeff,

Losing the election was actually a blessing in disguise.

Sincerely,
The Universe

Anonymous said...

No Mr Union Thief, I mean Chief. What this is a result of is greed. People are unable to pay more taxes. Yet you have a lifestyle to maintain. So we hear constant bs about old women and children dying if we don't give you what you want. People are fed up with your drama.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Mayor butler has anything to worry about.

I mean he really should be fighting for transgender bathrooms don't ya think, make sure he has a diversified force, a LGBT of each will do.

Anonymous said...

Hey folks, remember when our taxes use to include trash service? Higher taxes and more services cut, just doesn't add up. Mayor Butler's plan will include more double billing for services our tax dollars are already paying for. First was trash, second was sidewalks, third will be fire service, with police billing coming soon.

Anonymous said...

I reveiwed some of the national report about shifts and firemen and I find absolutely any benefit for the city to start implementing this type of schedule.. This union is one sided not thinking of the taxpayers at all.
\The benefits of a 24-hour shift are hard to deny. Employees find that 24-hour shift schedules afford considerably more time off than the traditional 9-to-5 shifts. It’s not unusual for 24-hour workers to have the “luxury” of working 120 shifts (or fewer) over the course of an entire year. Ask any shift worker how nice it is to ski, Christmas shop, or hike during the middle of the week. Although 24-hour shift work is attractive, there are downsides. Studies show 24-hour shift work leads to significant wear and tear on workers’ bodies and minds. Some 60 percent of health-care workers report moderate to severe levels of fatigue, the second highest rate of all industries.1 Shift workers’ job performance and family life can be heavily impacted by such stress. In the face of legal, health, and family challenges caused by 24-hour shift work, there is good reason to question whether the risks might outweigh the benefits.
Most people who’ve worked in EMS and the fire service for more than a few years are familiar with the profession’s grim line-of-duty death statistics. More than 20 percent of fire department fatalities each year are caused by vehicle crashes responding to and returning from calls. Although the United States Fire Administration doesn’t break down driving fatalities by specific cause, some of these accidents have resulted from fatigue, and others could have resulted from slow reaction times caused by fatigue. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports that more than 100,000 automobile accidents a year are caused by fatigued drivers.

Anonymous said...


Fireman burned their bridges by not endorsing Mayor Butler in the election.

Never bite the hand that feeds you. As you will soon learn.

Fireman are in a battle that they can't win.

Anonymous said...

LOL...I couldn't watch it. What a terrible unprofessional idiotic news station. Not only is the audio worse than you would expect from a high school station, but the speed of the agenda questions was so slow even the voters in the retirement towers wouldn't be able to keep from changing the channel.

Ya gotta love the crybaby fire department. They supported the guy who voted for the high priced union busting lawyer and they stuck it to the mayor who voted against it. Now they got what they asked for.

I give the Hotline host a lot of credit for taking the crap from the pensioned up firefighter who called in with his misguided arguments. You were a lot nicer to that clown than I would have been.

Anonymous said...

Plagarism, gotta love it.

Anonymous said...

7:43, you are on it. It's funny, the Firequeens backed the guy who tells them the party is over. It reminds me of the Cape Vincent folks. They hate wind when it's behind them, but end up with it right in front of their faces. Strange people.

Anonymous said...

Tremendous amount of sirens in the city today. Is it really necessary to run the sirens non-stop, even on roads with no traffic in sight? Are they showing off or something??

Anonymous said...

Didn't you hear 9:27? Breaker tripped on the toaster at Pete's when they were making Jeff's BLT. Film at 11.

Anonymous said...

Now now boys, don't fault the fire department for running their siren and big red lights. A trooper car got hit, so its good for two ladder trucks. Sure, anywhere outside of the city it would have only needed an ambulance and a tow truck, but if you don't put the miles on the firetrucks, they are never going to buy new ones.

Anonymous said...

9:16 that's stupid logic. The folks in Cape Vincent had absolutely no control over the Wolfe Island wind project, it's in Canada. Even so I understand many of them protested heartily to the Canandian government. You fault them for wanting to prevent further damage to the 1000 Islands scenic beauty.

You're the one who is strange.

Anonymous said...

9:27 and 11:00:
You both really need to study reasons and liability before you open your mouth. Drive down a street to an emergency and if someone backs out of their driveway or a person runs/walks out in the road and they accidentally get hit, the liability would be all over the fire/police/ambulance if they didnt have their warning devices on. Why have them, if your not going to use them, the court would say.. research it. It wouldn't be the emergency res ponders fault as they have the right of way, but still it would be an accident and fault would be partially theirs. 11:00, look and research what vehicles do what in the process. You really need to educate yourself why and what is needed. You really sound like Macalusso and thats not a compliment.

Anonymous said...

8:01, You have to understand, he can only afford waterfront in a swamp so he takes delight is seeing other hardworking people getting their waterfront scenery destroyed.

You know his other logic is, if the dog shits on the floor you might as well let them keep doing it until the entire floor is covered. Of course he doesn't apply that logic to new gun laws.When it comes to gun laws he sees the benefit in not further destroying the beauty of the second amendment.

Anonymous said...

9:49 and 8:01, I am very pleased that my comments make you gush. No sense in arguing with either of you. I'll just take great satisfaction in knowing that although you dismiss what I say, you feel the hormonal need to respond. Sit tight while I go piss on your wife's toilet seat. G'day young ladies.

Anonymous said...

Christ, listening to union hacks is like listening to 7 years old on a playground. "You don't like me" nah, nah nanan". You like her more than she likes you"

Grow up ! You have to many firemen , doing too little actual fire work, for too much money. Fire half of them and run a volunteer force with 5 times as many people, and stop showing up at every fender bender.

Anonymous said...

8:55, Your fine department has a long record of striking pedestrian vehicles with impunity. Hell you guys even hit a big yellow bus a few years ago. No harm no foul. You guys did that with the sirens blasting and the lights blaring...shows how much that helps. Your right of way comes with the responsibility to still drive safely at safe speeds. The idea that you need them on at all times in order to reduce your liability is almost as much drama-queen-esque as the idea that you need 15 men on a shift at all times. In other words, its waaaaaaaaaaay overkill.
On second thought...you guys have hit so many other vehicles and school busses, its probably a good idea.

Anonymous said...

5:40, You must be joking.
Look at the area volunteer fire departments and see how many have interior firefighters.
Many departments have alot of people doing a great job, but how many times dont they show up because of family or not around? Or how many departments have 25 people with maybe 6 or 7 interior.
It has proven not to work in many areas, and Watertown is not a place to start and try it again. It got how many more businesses and buildings, and 801 housing since a few years back when they had many more guys. Now its more hazard, problems, and a lot more buildings and we are looking for less people. I dont see the total picture.
You can not play catch up with this type of work.