Wednesday, April 13, 2016

WWNY: Climax Salvation Slow in Coming

        How far should the state go to get laid off Climax workers back to work when past efforts haven't worked and the owners chose to throw in the towel ? Everybody blames managment but maybe the marketplace just thinned the herd as happens all the time.
         Seems if there was a remedy to this, it was before it happened. 
        http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/State-Looking-For-Long-Term-Solutions-To-Climax-Problem-375512411.html

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Climax could re-open in 24 hours. All that has to happen is the union has to go away, and the company offers to bring back all old employees first. Starting wage commensurate for a person pushing a button, or driving a forklift, i.e. $10.00 @ hour. Otherwise it's 150+ more people back on the government nipple.

Those boxes can be made in China for 1/5th of the price, and landed in the US at less than 1/2 the price. It's just math. If sheeple want cheap stuff, you either get paid less to make it, or you don't get paid at all.

USA USA USA ! As long as we can buy things cheap and make a lot of money. Well guess what ? Those are polar opposites endeavors.

Anonymous said...

The State set the precedent with Alcoa - now every business has carte blanche to shut down/threaten to shut down and get a handout.

Anonymous said...

12:37, Here in NY State, it ain't china we have to worry about, its the red states that we have to worry about. Because red states don't enact as many stupid laws and are therefore much more business friendly. It would be hilarious if it were not so sad, that they announced they were closing the day Cuomo announced employees could get paid time off just for pooping out an ugly stupid baby that will grow up to be a drug using criminal. And the minimum employees would pay their workers will be $15/hr for showing up and if they actually do work, that would be extra. But hey...at least the sign in front of the new Goodyear won't be so big as to offend your sensibilities.

Anonymous said...

And Alcoa hasn't paid a profit in years.

Anonymous said...

Actually the cost of aluminum was down 15% in the past 12 months due to weak demand. Do the employees knock 15% off their pay ? Nope.
But if it was a private business the owners/workers would have to take the cut. Bernie/unionism is going down the drain, and the employees have no-one but themselves and their shop stewards to blame.

Anonymous said...

Wah... wah... wah... 1237

You post the same nonsensical B.S. here, WDT and its affiliated papers.
Union or not, it makes little difference. When companies are so damned greedy they'll do anything for more profits. Including making products in $hite hole countries that use child and slave labor. But your type doesn't care either. As long as you can still buy a shirt at Wal-Mart for 9-10 bucks. As a country, we can do better!

Anonymous said...

The people stupid enough to work deserve what they get. If they had the sense to work for government or even a school, they wouldn't be is such a predicament. We like Democrats, and we love the money they use to buy votes. Trouble is, it is our money. But we don't care.

Anonymous said...

9:04, is it wah wah wah, or waah waah waah. Either way, it's boring. And a fact for your challenged self. Climax hasn't made any money in years. Wah wah wah for them.

Anonymous said...

I expected you not to care Crybaby930P. But I did not expect that Schumer and Cuomo are the ones to be leading the charge to help these folks. Soon enough Gilly will chime in.

Anonymous said...

I saw what you did with your headline,"Climax..slow in coming" you journalism types don't miss a trick do you?

otherwords1 said...

Senior management makes the biggest amount of money when a business moves out of the US. THAT is why they do it. It is our Republican Congress that prevents tariffs that would prevent the cheap labor stuff coming in and lets senior managements make millions.
People would have enough money to buy things if tariffs would let American workers have a decent living. It sounds to me like some would like Americans to work for the same wage scale as is paid to workers that are exploited because they will accept low wages while American executives make seven figure wages. Is THIS the America some of you want?
The Free Trade Agreements were written by big banks. THEY saw how wealthy people in our country could make more money using the workers beyond our borders. It is these FTA's that cause class disparity in our country. Banks continue to control government here to ENCOURAGE disparity of wealth. The problem goes back to rule by the few.

otherwords1 said...

Everyone else but Jefferson County( and especially Watertown) seems to get help and new high tech businesses with help from the State. Cuomo seems to hate Watertown.
No Nanotech business here.
They say we need more high tech "training" or college for new high tech jobs. The fact that Verizon, a high tech business, was able to TRAIN replacement workers very quickly to take jobs of those on strike CONTRADICTS this.
This whole "training bit" is just another way for colleges and and big shots in our education system have for, again, increasing the six figure wages and building monuments to higher ranking administration.
When people say to put more money into high tech education, it just eliminates BUSINESS AND CORPORATE responsibility to do this themselves: which they are well able to do.
We continue to get deceived by people who are wealthy and want more at the expense of those on a much lower pay scale.
In fact, how THEY prosper is how the health of our economy is measured, NOT how well others are going.

Anonymous said...

When Businesses like Alcoa & Knorr Airbrake threaten to pack up and leave the area it gets the weak minded representing us in albany to open up a endless flow of cash to these companies who are top heavy on the management end. Crying poverty is Just another way to get rid of long term loyal union workers and pay junior employees 8-10.00 Hr. and keep them in poverty.NO MORE FREE MONEY HANDOUTS to any of the business in the area. They need to start with pay cuts at the very top end of management on down .