Tuesday, March 1, 2016

WDT: Bus Authority Proposed

      It would still be a government entity, just a different entity, so the creation of a transporation authority ( I presume through an act of the state legislature)  would require funding which now comes come from fares, federal subsidy and city dollars.
      Bus service can be argued is an amenity of city life that cannot be offered over a broader area due to economies of scale.
      Routes should be adjusted to reflect the needs of today's users, but an authority doesn't mean it's free, it means an elected body no longer has to set fares or justify keeping the service going.
      Watertown's original bus service folded in the 60s but was revived when sate and federal programs allowed.
      An authority will require an executive director, so that would be good for someone.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Authority is good. They filter out the unwashed masses from having input on it. You know those dummy types like the ones that support Trump. Executive director sounds like a good gig and it will leave lots of time to be a Hospice supporter.

otherwords1 said...

So is this also the "plan" Mr.Horbatz had to revitalize downtown causing more people from outside the city to be breaking down the bus doors to get to shop in those stores around the square?
If the city creates an Authority, won't this also be similar to the city once owning the airport? You remember-the one we could not manage to make enough money so we transferred that to the County.
If such an Authority were made to run beyond the borders of the City of Watertown, it would seem that it would be much more appropriate to be funded by the County with that entity also appointing the Executive Director and paying for it.
And, since the bus system would run not only outside of Watertown, but keep all the routes inside it, we would not have the burden to fund it and receive the most benefit from it.
It is about time that the City of Watertown received such a benefit from the County of Jefferson considering we here have the biggest concentration of people, businesses, banks and other financial services, law offices, health services and hotels and motels.
It only makes sense to have such a service to connect other parts of the county and improve both employment opportunities as well as tourist convenience.
Doing this will also spur economic development.
Bringing this idea should spur the County to develop such a project not only to reach a bit outside Watertown, but connect with many or all of the towns of the county. I have a feeling the idea will be given a pass as too much of a risk to undertake by our Board of Legislators.
Better to satisfy President McCoy and enlarge the college even more to "keep up" with other so called Community Colleges which were once created to serve the localities in educating people for community businesses and other jobs needed here. That has turned into another "keep up with your neighbor" project instead. We are now using it not to educate our people for jobs here, but to prepare them to leave our area and get "higher education" outside of Jefferson County. If anything is costing the citizens of Jefferson County more in taxes it is this new concept of what was once the "Community College".
The whole concept of "college" needs to change or citizens not only in Watertown, but all over will find the burden too much-either in the form of tuition and room and board or taxes.

Anonymous said...

Is there no institutional memory in Watertown. In the days of the Fort Drum buildup, when O.B. Martin was the powerhouse, the local shadow government addressed this very issue. And Centro made a proposal. But one of the local mediahounds didn't like the idea of being associated with Syracuse. So it was dropped. Hmmmm. Syracuse Airport Authority????? See its website

Anonymous said...

@otherwords1

The new bus runs would not need to cover the rest of the county, only extend to areas it should have been running to since Walmart was built over 20 years ago. The current buses run outside the city to Seaway Plaza aka Tops Plaza and out to the mall and Kmart and Hannaford. Everyone has wanted the buses to run to Walmart since it was built so you don’t have to walk from the mall to Walmart, and now there is the Town Center Plaza aka Target Plaza on the other side past Walmart. On Washington Street, there is the new medical plaza up past the old Kmart plaza that the bus doesn’t run to either. Even with a transportation authority they don’t need to run the buses anywhere beyond these places and stay locally. If the other towns and villages want the buses to run out to those places, then they need to chip in money as well. If the buses go to other areas like say Leray shopping areas, Clayton, Alexandria Bay, Carthage and others then yes the county should take it over and run it since it will no longer be a “city” bus service.

Anonymous said...

Hey the Bus or transporation authority in Carthage is looking for a new bus, maybe the COW route can go there...

Anonymous said...

so now addison wants to farm out the bus sevice. she also wants a volunteer fire dept. whats next? a part time police dept? what are we paying taxes for? no services = no tax in my book. as Trump would say, "bye bye".

Anonymous said...

Sorry to hurt anyone's feelings. The people using the bus do not purchase or have jobs that are significant to bolstering the economy. IT IS A SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. Get over yourselves.

Anonymous said...

@otherwords1, this is Mr. Waltsick's "plan" You should read the article before commenting on it.

Ray said...

Have to say, the mall really has nothing of interest for men in it anymore. Go look. Nothing. Dress shops for teens. So it would be super if the square was built up again. Is there a building big enough for Gander to move into? Maybe look into a Bass Pro coming in? Screw the apartments no one will want to live in. Call up both shops and offer the land the hospital sat on at a real great price. Get the ball rolling. There are enough apartments in the downtown already to pick up the demand that isn't there. Busing isn't going to do it. We need manly paces. Steak houses! Shrimp! Bars and more.

Anonymous said...

Addison would never get rid of WPD. Who would protect her from City parking lot misunderstandings.

Anonymous said...

look at the busses,does anyone ever see more than two or three riders? I don't,why not sell the big busses and get more of the eight to ten passenger ones,save some money on fuel and probably insurance.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't 260 have a seat on the CENTRO Board

Anonymous said...


It came out in the recent campaign that the city wanted to do away with many of the services that are being provided. Specifically, garbage, bus, water, and sewage were all mentioned as potential targets. Is this just the opening barrage with more service cuts to follow? If they downsize the fire department, make us contract for garbage, give the bus to a for-profit provider, and give water and sewer to DANC then what are our taxes for?? Unfortunately, the last people considered are the city taxpayers. Lest give the CM a big raise for screwing us citizens and taxpayers!!!! Wake up Watertown.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the IHOP Ray!

I agree with 7:53 get smaller busses.
Or maybe give out cab tokens.

Ray said...

You are right. Scrap all the apartments and build a IHOP in that big open lot.