Monday, February 8, 2016

Did Jeb Bush Speak to an Issue Here ?

     After a weekend when the issue of use of eminent domain to aid a private developer became a flash point between Governor Jeb Bush and Donald Trump, here in Watertown the precise same issue continues to be discussed in relation to Western Boulevard, the connector road through Stateway Plaza.
      Mr. Bush took after Mr. Trump for a bid to employ municipal eminent domain not for public improvements but for economic development, specifically to build a parking lot for a casino.
      Eminent domain is an issue in Republican politics, and increasingly city officials here have been stating openly the Stateway taking is specifically to benefit developer Patrick Donegan who has lobbied hard for it and last fall contributed the maximum amount allowed to Council candidate Demar who advocated for the taking and a contribution (later returned) to then mayoral candidate Joe Butler, Jr.
      It's sometimes ironic how an issue like eminent domain can suddenly be on the national stage in a way that Republicans might be reluctant to get too close to it.
       Maybe City Hall needs to make the case what they are pursuing (no matter who pays for it) is an improvement that accrues to the public's benefit and not something "promised" to one person.
       The Bush-Trump exchange flared in a televised debate on ABC on Saturday night.
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news03/whats-next-for-the-stateway-plazas-proposed-connector-road-20160208

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Voters couldn't care less about what Jeb has to say. Or Donald as the primaries continue.

Anonymous said...

I expressed my criticism here, of the fact that the eminent domain you brought to a vote and voted for, was for private benefit and of little concern to the tax payers as a whole. I saw it as one of several pandering plays you made, that did not reconcile with your claim to be of a libertarian bent. It didn't gain you a single vote and it didn't endear you with a single editor.

Trump did a poor job of defending his case. First off, the old lady was rich. Don't be fooled for a second and think only party line donkeys hate the rich. Some Gop voters do and he should have pointed that out. Second, it is not like he tried to take the land to build a McDonald's. The Casino he built was the economic engine of the area which benefited the entire area. It would be like if Mrs. Walker owned a mansion in the middle of the Mercy Project and refused to sell it to ensure the project goes through.

And last but not least, the Keystone Pipeline is NOT a government pipeline, it is a private pipeline. In fact, the private company that would use eminent domain to finish the last part of the pipline (which Obama won't let happen), is a Canadian company. Of course, many private companies still have their hands in the deal with rights to purchase a percentage of it when it gets completed.

Just like the 755KV line that was run through RINO county is not owned by the government. And the railroads are not owned by the govenrment.

Anonymous said...

7:03AM Hate to break it to you, the issue is very important. With Obama's progrssive left Prems on the high court it was his court that decided that for a few bucks as in campaign contributions from any developer, (The Donald was quick to jump on that band wagon) that our government can seize your personal property as in eminent domain for development. The first case that was heard and decided by these left progressives, (they have such concern for the people of vast income inequality) was in a small town in progressive CT.

You should continue to hold out hope that the RINO registered but is actually a Dem. is nominated since he is your best chance that the Democratic hogs continue to feed at the trough. This is coming from a lifelong Repub.

And you think your votes don't count to counter the stupidity of these voters?

Anonymous said...

Kelo v. City of New London was the case referenced by Bush regarding this eminent domain issue. It highlights the irony of how the liberal members of the court (John Paul Stevens, Bader-Ginsburg, Breyer and the two liberal Republican appointees, Kennedy and Breyer) ruled that government could take private property for the benefit of another private entity to further economic development at the expense of the common man. Liberals accuse conssrvatives of siding with Wall Street but this was a classic example of the liberals allowing a municipality to take a few non-blighted homes so that Pfizer could build a facility.

The conservative wing of the court (Scalia, Thomas and Rhenquist) stood firm with the rights of the property owner and argued that to decide Kelo is such a manner meant there was no limit to what constituted "permissible public use." The City could take the Hampton Inn and replace it with a Ritz-Carlton or take your house to replace it with a strip mall.

It was an incredibly poor decision by the liberal wing of the court which was further tainted by the fact that the City of New London never even developed the area containing Ms. Kelo's home as part of the Pfizer project.

Anonymous said...

We all seen Jeb Bush call out Donald Trump during their first and second debate. The honerable Mr Bush wanted Trumps vow to suupport the eventual nominee.. Now in reading the following one can judge Jeb Bush and his campaign.
Prior to the debate, senior Bush aides began looking into the possibility of making a clear break with Trump – potentially with the candidate stating that, if Trump were the nominee, Bush would not support him.

The former Florida governor didn’t go that far but the option may still be on the table. The Bush campaign has already examined whether such a statement would disqualify him from certain state primary ballots, some of which demand that candidates sign a loyalty pledge declaring that they will support the eventual Republican Party nominee…

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Anonymous said...

I think the Western Blvd. issue is one more issue to be added to what is becoming quite a long list of troubling and questionable issues. How does this benefit the taxpayers? Perhaps the two new city grant consultants can secure funding for this project too. Then maybe they can work on the concession stand, fireman contract, dog park, water fountain, new city court room, and the local drug epidemic. Or is that asking too much for $60,000?

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Anonymous said...

9:06 Thank you, I could not remember the parties involved when I posted earlier.

11:27 Please stay on the topic and acknowledge the facts of this particular case and who on the Court made the decision to steal this property for a individual for personal gain instead of the town's interest.

Looneys are losing it! But if you must, please fact check Ms. Bernie Sanders the former President of Burlington College and the offer of 200k as severance to go away quietly instead of being charged with money fraud.

Can't make this stuff up.

Anonymous said...

11:27, you're losing it. Reread what you wrote and please explain what the hell you are talking about. Calm down, gather your thoughts, focus, per se. ()?^^F

Anonymous said...


Nobody cares what Bush says, we're just waiting for him and his Mom to go home and stay there.