Thursday, January 7, 2016

What's Next For Arena Concession Stand? | WWNY TV 7

      I declined  Channel 7's offer to interview me on this topic as I don't think I should be in the MSM debating city issues. Obviously I have opinions or insights but that's confined to the HOTLINE if its brought up or here, of course.
       I see former Councilman Simmons summarized the issue well. I think it's a case of taking a deep breath, deciding the goal and planning to achieve it. The economics of the endeavor for a private sector businessperson are unclear and risky. As we saw with the dog park or a blog comment, the most mundane of topics get to be larger than life here in the 13601.
       If there is no minimum bid and no lease or rent, it essentially means the space is given away. I don't think that's the intention, at least I hope not.
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16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yet they always end up as topics on blogs. And blogs are larger than life then I suppose. Isn't this the same city that couldn't wait to get former councilman Simmons out of that place? Why on earth was he being interviewed I wonder?

Anonymous said...

Jay Donovan is the opinion leader in Watertown, when he is quoted on Newzjunky. Jay rocks.

Anonymous said...

That shows good taste that you turned down the channel 7 interview.
Its not like you have hidden your thoughts on it.
It shows bad taste that they asked you to comment.
Especially since they put so much effort into defeating you.

Danny M. Francis (Eyepublius) said...

I don't know about others, but as for me: (1) the place should have provided for and been ready for a vendor to move in and set up shop, not bring the shop with him/her, (2) this is a sore spot, and black eye.

No bids, I wonder why not? Duh...

Anonymous said...

Really? All the money sunk into the Arena and one of the things they professed would increase revenue and someone dropped the ball! Second floor offices, private locker room for a hockey team, .... Who decided what? Obviously inexperience at the helm! What happened to all the information Bernier and Carr gathered a few years back?

Anonymous said...

The city council wanted to spend millions on updating a arena that has been running in the red for years on the tax payers dime and will take up to 40 years to recoup the renovation cost . The kitchen should have been appliance ready for someone to walk right in and start cooking anything with no limitations . Hook up a large gas grill and ventilation hood from Watertown appliance on factory street (buy local) and call it good , no need to over kill the project and throw away $150,000.00 or more Just to make hamburgers and fries.

Max Volume said...

No bids because who can afford to pay the workers $15 an hour?

Anonymous said...

I heard they expect the hockey teams to bring their own Zamboni.

Anonymous said...

Somebody please tell me whose idea it was to cut back on the kitchen area??? Was it a council person? A member of Staff?

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about Max Volume? $15 an hour is more than 5 years away. The concession contract isn't for that long. Wages have nothing to do with the lack of bids...

Anonymous said...

11.01. If it's a jab towards Jeff, please. He was the first and the last to say the food stand wasn't being handled correctly. Everyone laughed and giggled. Might as well put in a Coke machine, candy bar machine, and maybe one of those Auto-Pizza vending devils. City could do as Jeff suggested, collect the percentage that the machines produce. Well to be fair, he told them several times to run it, and make the cash. But again he was giggled at by some in the chambers. You can see the icing on the cake, this is just one of many problems we will face from here on. Many of you wanted part time, you got it.

Anonymous said...

This should have all been included in the business plan as well as the construction for the arena before the any approvals given to start work!
Who invests 10 plus million into a project without exploring all of the facets of the operation? There should have been a food service operator or at least a consultant already in place when it was in the planning stages to help with the design and if no business would have been interested at that point then that at least would have been a red flag that maybe the whole project was not well thought out.

Most everyone already knows this was not a good move and we will be footing the bills for this monstrosity for years to come!

Anonymous said...

Hey 230 the vending machine is funny, there's a machine at the DPW that dispenses work gloves, safety vests, ear plugs, etc etc. worked good until someone got somebodys code for it and there you go nothing left, smart idea, but it didn't matter the vendor filled it on a weekly basis, It seems odd no one knows how we got to this point of a Concession stand with no equipment, But a good idea in putting the vending machine contract out to bid, currently one vending machine in the DPW goes to buy turkeys for everyone, smart move.......

Anonymous said...

2:30 you are 100 percent right and so is Jeff! I was referring to Parks and Rec who apparently don't want to give it a try even though one of their selling points was more concession revenue. We all know even if they don't run it labor costs won't change as they profess was too costly and taking time away from programs. Programs have decreased with one less pool, less playgrounds, less baseball, less skaters so I don't buy that argument! City should run and get the equipment it needs 11:01!

Anonymous said...

What do you expect for a measly million in design fees?

Anonymous said...

How long will it take for this thing topay back the money the "upgrades" cost?