Saturday, January 9, 2016

WDT:Paper Raps City for It's Service

      The WDT has taken one incident and done some extrapolation about the conduct of city employees to the public. In an editorial, the Gray Old Lady of Watertown opines City Hall must mend its ways.
      It's the eternal struggle. We are a nation of rules and laws versus reasonableness and common ground. 
      One of the roles of the elected official is to intercede on behalf of constituents and cut through the bureaucracy which is often all too willing to fall back on stricture.  However, a blanket indictment based on an incident hardly defines the whole government.
      There are many instances of kindness or helpfulness. When in office I often tried to use this site to highlight such things, as such things are not often chronicled elsewhere.
      I run into the same thing in business. Sometimes we have to say no to people or reign them in and sometimes staff misfires in their dealings, and you just keep trying to do better.
      In enforcing the rules of society, people expect due process and you can't always know who's a nice guy you can just give a call to. I agree ham handedness occurs on occasion.
       There is also the frustration of laws only enforced on a complaint basis.
       Jake's fence was a good example of differing opinions. Some thought it a waste of time and money to come down on a situation that was no real harm to society. Others say the law is the law and no one is above the law, by God.
       The challenge when in a position of authority is knowing when to go to the mat and when you just swallow your pride and let someone feel they prevailed.
       I do it everyday, and usually get it right...But not always.
Watertown Daily Times | Customer service: Watertown needs to improve the way it deals with residents

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have found many city employees are great to deal with, especially in the water department. But code enforcement has ALWAYS been extra prickly and aggressive. Recall their stubborn ignorance of the mechanical code, where they insisted that New Haven Pizza needed their oven to be UL listed,when if fact that code only applies to manufactured ovens and not custom built ovens. It is like if code built a custom lamp or light fixture, made from UL listed parts but the fixture itself is not UL listed.

Anonymous said...

The picture on the seal is no doubt Elise chokin g the life out of Doheny in the last elections.. Fitting heh

Anonymous said...

Love the comment in the Snowtown WDT article today by the Parks and Rec supv "I'm not going to worry". Seems that is her mantra on many things (e.g., the concession stand, etc). The title Supervisor implies something in most cases but not here.

No charitable status for Snowtown - no problem - just get NNYCF to cover. Thanks, Randy. Is that even legal? Who carries the insurance liability? How can City insurance policies convey?

I am happy the event seems to be saved but wonder how it all works. As a taxpayer I am saddened by how the hired administrators seem to be immature and clueless.

As Macaluso said, Here we go again.

Anonymous said...

Nice job by the city,NOT! The man has an illegally dumped item on his property,and takes care of it himself because the city can't be bothered,and yet they threaten him with almost three hundred dollars in fees even though it has been removed.I suppose those people should be happy it wasn't illegally dumped hazardous materials,then the city could really "clean up" on fees and fines against them.

Anonymous said...

This sounds as good as all the talk on craigslist rants & raves about the big parking crackdown on Washington street on Friday. Some are Blaming Butler.

otherwords1 said...

Don't the police collect evidence from a crime scene? As there was a crime committed at Abe's residence, shouldn't the couch have been considered as "evidence and either they or some other city service collect it as such?
If then people would like to get rid of their furniture by reporting something on their property as stolen, they would then risk committing a crime themselves.
Given what I said in the first paragraph, neither the police, nor the other city departments "followed procedure and owe Mike(Abe's brother) the $7.50.

Anonymous said...

WELL """ Back when the old timers ran the DPW we had people there that were problem solvers and did not need to run to Mr. Hays or Mr. Monaco and ask him for advice. I can remember the city worker who picked up my trash was a great guy and my elderly mom had a big old dresser next to the trash we din't know what to do with, he just took the drawers out tossed them into the garbage truck then the dresser and pushed the button and it was pressed into a shoe box space in the packer, Problem Solved. Same with the cold patch crew who use to go around and fill every darn little crack and crevice in the pavement around the city. Honestly when is the last time you saw a cold path truck on any city street ? Older SEASONED CITY EMPLOYEES Knew how to solve any Residential problem they encountered, And some of the older guys still working there you Knew and worked with the people i'm talking about.

Anonymous said...

Hey 953, Remember a while back when was giving out FREE phones at the Joe Butler Pavillion in the summer then she had to stop NO LIABILITY INSURANCE.........Parks and Rec was worried then weren't they...

Anonymous said...

Think of it this way, I own rental property a tenant leaves say a TV there, I call the COW tell them somebody dumped this here, So in effect should someone call the police?? Here's a better irony, say you own property in the COW, annual pickup is held: Even owning property in the COW you don't qualify to take things there because you don't live in the COW, but your tenant who doesn't property could take anything to the drop-off-point...

Anonymous said...

Wow
Just read some of those posts on craigslist rants & raves about the Washington st parking ticket fiasco last Friday. It sounds like what the city is doing is illegal. will be interesting to see what comes of it. more billable hours for Mr. Slye no doubt.

Anonymous said...

What else should we expect from the WDT at this point. It's just par for their course, sadly. By the way, I just checked out some of those parking ticket posts on cl that people have been talking about. Some of them make a pretty good case. What do you think Mr. Mayor? Is it legal for the police to be marking peoples property with markers like that? Quite a dust up they got going there. Wonder how long it will take news 7 to pounce on this.

Anonymous said...

Hey 130 this has been going on for years, ever since we got rid of the parking meters, have to find a way folks won't park for 10 or 12 hours so there you have it, like I said this practice has been going on since the 90's when it was decided to do away with the parking meters........

Anonymous said...

The safety is off my friends. Danger is in the air. Jeff was the safety on the city. Just no one got that.

Anonymous said...

Hey 3:42 just because it's always been done that way doesn't make it right. Again, There is no mention in the city codes of the city's right to mark or chalk tires. The city has left itself wide open for a lawsuit if anyone decides to go forward with one on this matter. city codes section 293-43 actually refer to current parking enforcement officer as a meter maintenance person.