Tuesday, January 26, 2016

WDT: JCIDA chief: $15-an-hour proposal could drive ‘handful’ of area businesses out of state

      Well, the issue is income disparity.  Struggling people vs the elites.
       Let's pass a rule. No head of a NFP makes more than $150K, use the savings to pay the little guy and gal more.
       Or how about cutting the pay of teachers and troopers and redistributing the money ?
       Or just do what we are doing. Absolve our guilt over disparity by forcing small business to pay more and then the elites can get a raise just to maintain the proper level of separation from the great unwashed.
Watertown Daily Times | JCIDA chief: $15-an-hour proposal could drive ‘handful’ of area businesses out of state

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

That would mean an 850,000 dollar cut for Carman at SMC. And a big cut for the head of JRC. Maybe they would be able to better treat their employees.

Anonymous said...

Which is dumber:
1.That they state the obvious about the looming exodus of companies from the places in the state that don't already pay more than $15/hr.
or...
2.That they seem to think someone who could stop the ill-advised $15/hr wage, will hear them and give a shit?

Ima said...

Teachers already make less than prison guards who have 5 fewer years of education.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what you think is appropriate. The market will dictate. Period.

Rural NY will experience a compete meltdown for everone but the wealthy summer home residents, and those on the high side of the government nipple. Union workers in non moveable jobs will do fine, except they will have to pay more for everything they consume. No child who is born in the north country will ever again come back after college, once 15- is in place.

Ny is cold and it will be devoid of any jobs except government , and if you are going to suckle, you might as well do it where the weather is nicer, and the taxes are lower.

For anyone stupid enough to think manufacturing doesn't matter, keep in mind that although manufacturing only provides 17% of the jobs in the US, it produces 70% of all of the profits from all companies combined. As manufacturing continues to collapse, so goes the profits that pay 70% of the taxes, and contribute to 70% of the value of the stock market that supports the pensions of virtually our entire country.

It's $1.00-$3.00 per hour outside of our country, and soon just a step across the state line will be half the cost of doing business in NY.

The is going to be fun to watch from afar.

Anonymous said...

Everything Benito and the Donkeys do is intended to buy votes. This will work in that regard. So who cares who suffers? I don't. If people are stupid enough to swallow this junk, then they deserve what they get.

Anonymous said...

Jeffie, Let's start with the Sheriff's Dept. No double dipping for the former State Tropers within the dept. These pension/retirement benefits have been too lavish and the small people struggling find it difficult to keep paying property and school taxes to keep these public sector union people in the lifestyles that our corrupt State pols have voted on year in and year out.

Anonymous said...

But 732 remember Sheriff's Deputies have the 25 year retirement rule,(Gentleman Jim got this for them) plus FREE college at JCC...

Anonymous said...

Instead of focusing on the relative small wage of our Sheriff, let's look at what our Hospital CEO makes. I've hear it ranges between $480,000 to $800,000 per year. Insurance payments including a large share of it being Medicaid are used to pay this.
The answer is not that the higher administrators should make much less since high class in our local has a much lower standard than areas where median wage is much higher.Instead, Medicaid is focused upon as the culprit. All the while these top dogs stay innocent claiming that what they make is "standard" for such a position.
If that is true, then we should be paying teachers, public health Nurses, social workers, public highway workers each a wage that is "standard" to what the same workers make in places like Long Island?
The people who make such high wages like to say that their wage means little compared to the larger cost of a group like teachers. So they invalidly compare their single wage to what a group make.
Both the "standard argument as well as the "it is small compared to the overall budget" argument are accepted as true to justify giving such people a very high wage which is NOT appropriate for a local with a much smaller scale of pay.
Maybe part of why we have to pay so much in Medicaid is the fact that the wage we pay such people is not what it should be. Considering this, health care would cost much less.
Instead of reducing the wage of who makes so much, the community focuses on trying to lessen what the lower wage workers make.
Remember, Our hospital is a NON PROFIT entity governed by a Board of people from our own community who approve of such wage.

Anonymous said...

10:34, you are either lying or are misinformed.

Anonymous said...

10:34 And you can simply say that to make it untrue? Why don't you check YOUR FACTS!

Anonymous said...

If $15.00 a hour for workers is going to hurt Large area employers like the hospital & New York Airbrake Then maybe you should make adjustments to the salaries of overpaid executives to offset this increase .

Anonymous said...

Tirene would never stand for a cut. We cannot afford to lose their caliber of leadership. Outrageous it would even come up.

Anonymous said...

This whole thing is bad for NNY. Higher minimum will have a very regressive outcome.

Anonymous said...

Air Break crying? Why? They pay better than $15 as it is. They have few workers collecting under $20. Plus I think they would have a hard time finding the kind of employees they have here, in the deep South. Or any other place. Going to go to Mexico? Most of these big companies already tried the other countries. They found people who couldn't learn the jobs. It's a big bluff, looking for some perk from NYS.

Anonymous said...

Let's hear some support for the put upon NFP leaders!!!! They are there for us- we need to be there for them. Who will write the first positive comment for them?????

Anonymous said...

I see a BOD member got her daughter a job at the NYAB down south, and there crowing about $15 an hour forcing Companies to leave NYS..Should she resign from the Board?????? Like Blurto...

Ima said...

Actually, 8:48 AM and 12:19 PM, I'm SPOT ON. It's all available at seethroughny. The AVERAGE CO at Cape makes $68000 per year. The average teacher in Watertown, which is one of the highest paid districts, makes an average of $44,000. You can try dropping the lowest and highest earners but it's still in range.

Anonymous said...

5:05 PM, I'm pretty sure they could find people down south who know the difference between "brake" and "break". You sound like one of those who aren't worth half of $15/hr.

Anonymous said...

Ima, those numbers are skewed because they include the falsified time sheets of the CO's.

Anonymous said...

1242 an - you nailed it. And the entitlement mentality is much less developed outside of NNY