Sunday, January 10, 2016

Feds suspend controversial program that takes money from suspects, gives it to police | syracuse.com

    Nothing corrupts more than money and the prospect of getting free money from the "bad guys" has been bad policy for some time. From small town police chiefs tooling around in a Lexus to purchases where the cost is masked by saying the suspects bought that new helicopter, the seizure of money and goods is a corrosive force.
    It alters the pursuit of cases and is done with no public oversight.
     Police Departments are not separate and distinct corporate entities and they are not their own taxing jurisdiction. Appropriations for equipment should come from the duly elected body overseeing them.
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8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why is this bad,cause you didn't get one of the drug cars to "tool around" in? What do we care if some drug dealer losers his cars and cash,and if the cops expand their investigations as a result,why is that a bad thing? Maybe you can go with Sean Penn on his next interview and give him a hand.

Anonymous said...

@ pensioned up Officer 12:33: Quit defending the indefensible.
Q: Do you know why there is an idiom about the fox guarding the henhouse?
A: Because cops are notoriously dishonest.

You want to be judge, jury, confiscator and benefactor with no questions asked, but we don't trust you, even if it was good policy to confiscate without a trial.

NY21inMD said...

This program is being abused by law enforcement around the country. It's OK to seize and keep the ill-gotten assets of proven criminals. And it's Ok to temporarily seize the assets of suspected criminals. But police are also confiscating, and permanently keeping, assets not associated with proven criminals or specific crimes. In one instance, a man rented a car and had $10,000 cash from an insurance settlement to purchase another car. Police dogs detected the presence of illegal drugs in the rental from a previous user. They confiscated the car and the $10,000. Reportedly, the man could not get his money back unless, under this program, he proved the money wasn't used in criminal activity. PBS Frontline reported the bulk of the asset seizures nationally were assets not involved in proven crimes. They just seize and keep these assets on suspicion only. This is not just or fair.

Anonymous said...

Remember when the JCSD Detective kept the women's money after she was not guilty, and there was "no record" he took it? I think it was $800?? The same guy who was caught shoplifting at Price Chopper, Once took a ride on a beer keg Shouting "No more troopers" .....We got the best protection money can buy....

Anonymous said...

Your sympathy for drug dealers and sean penn is duly noted,my heart just bleeds for them trying to get back their drug money.Bet they will return the drug money your kids stole from you to finance their habit.Unless you are the kids,then enjoy your high.

Anonymous said...

1:16, the police are not "notoriously dishonest". I'm not sure where you've read that, but I'll be nice and suggest you find some other sources for your information. Police officers are at the front line of our victimhood based society. Everyone is entitled. Everyone is offended. Everyone views themselves as better than their neighbor. Just because someone is speeding, talking on a cell phone, and driving on a suspended license is no reason for them to be stopped and ticketed. We are now privileged. We are all special And if we do something wrong or illegal, it's because of some other reason than our decision to do so. We are justified. It's not our fault. This is what every officer has to deal with every day. They don't know if the person they stop is angry, drunk, or has a lengthy criminal record. Stick with our officers. Support them. I'm not suggesting we worship them or fail to hold them to high standards. But do put yourself in their shoes as they go about their day. I'm 61, and I have interacted with hundreds of officers in most all states. I've never been treated with anything but courtesy and professionalism. I'm grateful we have such good people in that line of work.



NY21wherever, you're a fool. There are instances where this has been abused. There are always instances where people overstep their authority. But I'd gladly put any police agency up against the government employee club you golf in. I realize hating the police is a requirement for Obama lovers everywhere. But sometime, someday, learn to think for yourself.

Anonymous said...

10:33 I may have exaggerated slightly in saying the police are notoriously dishonest. Really the point is that EVERYONE is too dishonest to be entrusted with the power to confiscate.

I too have interacted with hundreds of LE, but its mostly those from this county and the surrounding counties. What I observe is that LE is no different than any other line of work. It draws certain personality types. It draws good people and bad people. It has a tendency to attract people who are pricks. That's a scientific fact. Look it up.

Just because I don't support giving carte blanche to the police does not mean I don't support police. I am on the cops side most of the time when they are in the national news. But you are completely wrong about EVERYONE having privilege. It is LE and the family of law enforcement who has a get out jail free sticker on their windshield. It is the rest of us that pay the fine for doing what every cop does every day with impunity. Red Stag me too while you're at it.

Anonymous said...

7:18, I'm not sure what the Red Stag stuff means, but your points are well taken. I don't disagree.