Sunday, January 31, 2016

WDT: Council May Talk About Arena Sponsorship on Monday

      The story on naming the Arena has become a news story and will be discussed Monday night. That puts it in the news cycle, and if that is Council's intent, maybe the publicity will spark inquiries which could give an indication of interest and potential revenue.
       I doubt action would be taken on Monday as time to reflect on the proposal would be needed.
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news03/watertown-officials-may-consider-selling-naming-rights-for-fairgrounds-ice-arena-20160131

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

1) The "No Concession Stand Arena"
2) The "Paid for Watetown Folk - You're Welcome Arena"
3) The "'Cuz We Cud Arena"
4) The "Everything Ass Backwards Arena"
5) The "Thousand Islands - Almost - Arena"
and my favorite
The "Your Name Here Arena"

Congratulations to the City Council for the current project cleanup.

Anonymous said...

Based on the pictures in the WDT's, its going to be nice when it's all done. Congratulations Mayor ! Without your leadership, this never would have happened. In a couple years, no one will talk about the price tag, which was overpriced, but not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

Anonymous said...

Beg to differ 8:36. We will see if the users justify the project. Pricing will determine that. As for naming rights...these people obviously have no background in marketing. Rather than discuss how the added "revenue" will justify the price tag (see 8:36's comment), how about promoting the unique advertising advantages and opportunities that this naming rights sponsorship gives. Macaluso just has no clue. If you truly want someone to fork over hundreds of thousands of ADVERTISING dollars, you must justify it with an advertising package. How many eyes, traffic studies, approximate users, etc. This gets more comical the further on it goes. Sports and recreation were once pretty good in this city and they seem to have lost there way. Why is that? I will leave that up to the qualified comment posse on the mayor's blog to ponder.

Anonymous said...

So, one poster says to name this after Butler because he was responsible for it, this poster says Graham. Shows you how the wind blows in this town as far as opinions. Opinions are like....well, you know the rest.

Anonymous said...

Right from the start the Arena was poorly done but now we have it with several change orders including a beam to the second floor, a corrected zamboni room that was miscalculated and several other items. If we as a City can get some revenue from naming a building take it! However, I wish someone would step up to the plate and make the new Arena match the money spent! A scoreboard half the size of the old one and a concession stand that is getting shoved in at that last minute that looks like it spread out in order to get needed equipment in is a very discouraging start! If you bid out the name offer it for several years as people using the facility can't keep changing the name for events and visitors need a steady name to google for location. Also bid out other facilities....ball field, multipurpose field, park pavilion and so on!

Danny M. Francis (Eyepublius) said...

From my post at the WDT opinion section:

Let me see if I have this right:

1. The parks and recreation superintendent recommends that the city (we, taxpayers) bid out the naming rights for the city’s ice rink after a $10.5 million upgrade,(also at taxpayer's expense).

2. Two "unidentified businesses" have approached the parks person in recent months expressing an interest in the renaming rights? (why can't we know right up front who the two "unidentified" businesses are - why this cloak and dagger approach).

3. The concession stand project is "a bit of debacle since no one submitted any bids on January 7. Potential vendors had expressed they wanted a grill, fryer and other restaurant equipment so they could offer an expanded menu. At least two potential vendors have recently approached her about running the concession stand without the need of any additional restaurant equipment or plans for an expanded menu, the Parks person said. With the possibilities looking better to find a vendor, council members may decide there’s no need to proceed with the concession stand project. (Oops - will people who come just have to bring their own food from home?).

4. Finally, council members also will get a first look at what the concession stand upgrade might look like. The City Engineer will present schematic drawings that a Rochester engineering firm has completed. (what we have none locally who could have done that - or did some and upgrade plans were awful? - would be nice to know).

What's my point? Several points actually.

(1) The idea of a naming rights stinks, why not just call it the Watertown Ice Arena or City Arena and move on.

(2) This back and forth on the food concession stand shows a lack of foresight plain and simple.

(3) Now another "outside" major firm vs. local firms hired to submit plans for this or that. I know sometimes local business can't meet the bid requirements, but I also wonder why not? How wide do city bids go as they seek the best result at the best price for guess who - yep - we the taxpayers.

We who pay the bills and just sit back and watch what we are watching ... we got "change" in city government, but I am starting to wonder: what kind? — Dan Francis

Anonymous said...

When Ft. Drum closes in a few years and the tumble weeds start blowing down arsenal street again, at least the rednecks will have a nice pace to hold their sat nite socials at... might as well call it perty mouth arena.

Anonymous said...

spot on Dan Francis

Anonymous said...

The director and staff have what seem to be large office space to match their egos. Have them put some crock pots in them and menu is now expanded.

Anonymous said...

2:13 I agree 100%, how many staff have been added to Parks and Rec since the Addison/Gardner take over. Assistants and assistants to the assistants and they still cant get anything right. Time for a change at the top, sooner than later before this city is broke while the out of town engineering firms and lawyers smile all the way to the bank

Anonymous said...

I can see where some men and women in the area have passed as of late, and their money is just sitting in the bank. No reason why we couldn't remember one of them in a good way. It pays the bill down and we have a good way to remember the person. What in the hell is wrong with that?

Anonymous said...

I agree 8:31. Time for some changes. Mr. St. Croix was understaffed, and, although the office had some records issues, it seemed to be a golden time over there. This glorified bill collecting unit just seems to be good at spending money. They have no background in sports and that doesn't help. Addison/Gardner was a good try, but, time to move on.

Anonymous said...

You had me Danny, right up until your last sentence.
This responsible parties for this no longer head or sit on the city council.
Every detail of this multi million dollar debacle should have been laid out in a good solid plan before the final vote to move forward. Nothing left to chance.


The P&R chief needs to be thanked for her time and shown the door.
Her kind of advice and leadership style could be done by a janitor.

Anonymous said...

Agree 2:17...it is becoming evident that this was an awful hire. I love how bad this looks from a PR standpoint. If we sell the naming rights we can sucker someone into offsetting the cost of this monstrosity. Yet, who cares if they get anything out of these rights. Let's just make sure we get our money. Just a bad joke.

Anonymous said...

Say it ain't so Joe. Addison has made too many mistakes. Old CM had evaluations by CC and printed in the Times, where are Addison's. Seems hands off, maybe some close ties among current council. I wish we had a paper that investigated cronyism.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible to put a confidence / no confidence ballot for city manager on the voting roll this nov? I think the no confidence number would astounding! maybe they could do like a newzjunky vote poll or something.

Anonymous said...

Good Idea 3:13. I would be willing to bet that her approval numbers would be lower than congress. Addison does not know the meaning of the word compromise. She rules as a dictator only. Time for a change of thinking. No consultant required!

Anonymous said...

Has there ever, in the history of Watertown, been a CM that Watertownians had good things to say?
Nope. Poor Mary C. was slammed at every corner as well. Why don't some of you free thinking critics get on her calendar and discuss your concerns directly.