Sunday, December 20, 2015

Cayuga County Emergency Services considers a future without volunteer fire departments

    This is an interesting article because its true all over. The old ways are fading away and as you can read here, some are more candid than others.

     Cayuga County is where Auburn is....That's a city about the size of ours.

      It would seem the discussion on these issues have to occur outside the traditional paradigms, but it won't. as we will continue to try and make existing paradigms work.  Too much turf, emotions and vested interests.

      Cayuga County Emergency Services considers a future without volunteer fire departments

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

NYS should step in and restructure the whole volunteer fire department system. Lots of money spent on individual fiefdoms that can not provide the needed level of service.

Anonymous said...

I agree what good does it do to build a multi-million dollar building, then have the county of Jefferson $pend 14 million on a radio system when you have no one to fight the fire like happened during the races at Watkins Glen when no one was available to respond in the Theresa Area..........

Anonymous said...

I agree with 8:57.
buildings are burning down by the trillions. We need Albany mandates now! We need union paid fire fighters for the whole county with pensions when they retire after 20 years.

Anonymous said...

The amount of money sitting in fire stations in this county alone would scare you. Several well placed, equipped, staffed fire and ambulance stations around the county would make much more sense. Watch the news any given night and you will see a story of a fire with a couple timbers left standing and the fire chief saying how they had to call 10 departments to get enough manpower to extinguish the remains. I applaud the volunteers for their efforts but times have changed and the system needs to change with it.

Anonymous said...

@09:59AM your post makes no sense, what does Watkins Glen have to do with Theresa area? And the radio system is obsolete and has needed to be replaced for decades. The main fire channel operates on a frequency that has been labeled as garbage, too much noise on the channel and not enough coverage.

@08:57AM that is a start.

@10:18AM A county wide fire department would be good, but that doesn't mean there will be less departments, just the county will chip in money along with each town and village. You still need departments in each area, having 1 department to cover a large area will not work. Your response time even with a paid department will be so great that the houses will still be gone and more people will die in the fires or accidents. Some fire departments are allot better off than many, like Town Of Watertown with the money they get from the prison they can buy new equipment anytime without any issues while departments like Adams and Calcium have to fight to get a decent size building and new equipment.

No adding in the city to a volunteer department will not work either; they need to remain a paid fully and properly staffed department. Going to a county wide paid system is the best option we have right now. We wouldn’t have such a shortage of volunteers if everyone didn’t have to work themselves to death with multiple jobs or working 40+ hours to try and survive. Many departments need to change their old ways of thinking and change their rules. TWFD states they can only have so many people who live inside the city on their department, yet they still have issues with getting enough people to fight their fires. Redwood fire department tells anyone who wants to be on their ambulance squad they have to be fire fighters and not what the person wants to do. If someone wants to be an EMT, you should welcome them with open arms, considering your department has to always call for mutual aid for EMS calls and not dictate that they become a FF. All fire fighters should be cross trained on all equipment that their department has available and not just shoved on one unit. The current “clique” system in many departments controlled by one family needs to end as well. They think that because they have a bunch of their family members on the department that it’s “their” department when in truth it’s no one’s department but the village or town you serve. The main reason their whole family is members is due to each one getting on the board and voting in their own family, when many of the same family members don’t even respond to 90% of the fire calls. TWFD and Evans Mills fire department, among others is a clique based system run by 1 family in each department.

Codes need to be changed as well. The city and county needs to go back to a full inside inspection of every property and not care about what the drug dealers want to hide or the slumlords that won’t update their wiring or HVAC systems. If they inspect properties they can find issues that are fire hazards, blocked doors, houses that have been changed from single family to multiple family homes without the departments knowing. Mandating smoke and CO2 alarms in every residence and in more areas, mandate sprinklers in all properties residential or commercial and make them retrofit them now and not allow any grandfathering of any properties at all like they do now. All properties should be steel frame built or if wood is used, they need to eliminate truss built properties and the weak metal fastening plates and have all wood covered in fire resistant materials. Fire departments would not have the issues they have today with the properties burning as fast, roofs and floors failing, the toxic fumes if they laws are changed to protect the people who are in them.