Saturday, February 16, 2013

Cities near a tipping point....Those Closest to Tipping are Nervous - Times Union

       The kerfuffle between Mayor Miner and Governor Cuomo is in some ways the inevitable result of years of policies neither was directly a party to.
       Cities....as in shining cities on a hill....are finding it tougher to live up to expectations and all the mandates, policies and labor laws piled on over the years are the chickens coming home to roost. Despite years of calling for mandate relief, Albany is paralyzed by special interests and local governments are not that high on the list.
       When Mayor Miner talks of "gimmicks", she is right in saying there is no free lunch and pension smoothing is just borrowing against the future in return for lower expenses now. Lower expenses that defer or eliminate the need to decide whether a city has three pools or two, two hundred cops instead of three hundred, or fire staffing some argue harkens to the days of alarm pull boxes on the corner.
     However, the word "gimmick" implies dishonesty or deception. What the Governor is proposing is neither.  It is what it is. Sort of like when I bought my first car (a '74 Pinto) and the maximum term available was 36 months...Now it's 72 or 84 months to keep the payments in line. It's borrowing against the future, but it's not a gimmick....It may or may not be good practice, but its clear what you are doing.
       I have been to NY Conference of Mayor's meetings for some time and the same things are discussed every year. Wick's Law, binding arbitration, AIM aid, CHIPS money.  Now pensions eclipse everything.
        The Governor seems to be saying, solve the problems yourself...make real cuts..and there is a natural resistance to that as nobody ever got a Shapiro Award for closing a fire station or a playground or taking away a tax exemption for seniors. 
        The Administration accuses Mayor Miner of just angling for more state money and not making the tough decisions. Her honor thinks otherwise.
       What do you think ?
        
Cities near a tipping point - Times Union

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

It certainly is a gimmick. Borrowing on cars got longer because cars started lasting longer. Borrowing on an American made car for 72 months is still a gimmick. Leasing is a bigger gimmick.

Unlike SS, our pensions have always been, in theory, funded to a point. This is the first time democrats have seriously tried using Obama accounting to reduce the current contributions.
Gimmick!
gimmick!
gimmick!

Anonymous said...

You know what another gimmick is?
When Cuomo raised the tax rates but called it a tax cut. If the new tax rates result in collecting more taxes then it is a tax increase. And that is what it did.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

Syracuse Mayor Patrick Hogan:

showed the class Mayor Miner lacks in his letter of apology, and assumed responsibility for Syracuse, needing to get its own house in order. This was something Mayor Minor seemed loath to do, as she sought to blame the governor for Syracuse's fiscal woes, instead of stepping up to the plate to find fiscally responsible solutions for her Cities economic plight. This woman needs to be gone soon and maybe Patrick Hogan can beat her in the Democratic Primary next election.

Mayor Graham, you're only too happy to see a Democratic spat, but try this on for size you Republican in hiding, maybe you should try understanding what loyalty is all about for once. Do you know what the term ‘loyalty’ means? Your little angel Dem. Party Co-Chairwoman Mayor Stephanie Miner, showed she has no concept of what being a loyal team player is about. She sold Gov. Cuomo out and now it's time for her to be --voted out-- in a Democratic Primary; and I'll gladly work for Paul Hogan who you disrespect for the honesty, class and loyalty that Mayor Miner lacks. What would you know about being up front and working as a team member, your own Council doesn’t even discuss a Zoning Code change with you and that offends most people’s sensibilities. Try staying in touch with your own Council Mayor Graham, and try teaching them a little loyalty too.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Right Handed Left Winger said...

I see the Gov trying to ride his popularity wave with this budget. I do not see success in that attempt. Mayor Miner is absolutely right in challenging what she feels is unmanageable mandates...we have seen this happen at all levels from NYS government. She has grown, in her two terms, a nice set of cajones.

Anonymous said...

In the old days full pensions were given after 20 years of service, and the pensioners lived to an average age of 62. Now they are living to an average age of 82 with much higher final average salaries. Do the math.

Anonymous said...

Mike you friggan hypocrite aren't you a registered republican. Moron

Anonymous said...

The best thing for Mayor Miner would be if Hogan hired Mikey. No one knows for sure how many votes Mikey cost Owens, but its a safe bet it was a ton of 'em.

Mikey will do whatever he can to make sure a woman does not hold a position of Power, be it Mayor Minor or Hillary.

Loyalty is when the tax and spend party keeps taxing and spending. For Cuomo to give the finger to all the cities in this state, by kicking the Ponzi pension can down the road, in hopes that his Madoff accounting will play well in his upcoming presidential belly flop, is about the most disloyal thing I have ever seen in politics.

Baby Cuomo, it is time to start dancing with the ones that brought you to the dance.

Anonymous said...

Mikey you're such a dumbass I can't believe it. This has NOTHING to do with party line BS. This has to do with paying bills. Most of us couldn't care less about whether Miner is a Donkey, a stooge like you, a turtle or a duck. We have to consider, at least for a moment, the future. We have to pay our bills. Someone will be around in years to come. Are you so stupid, self centered, and ignorant of financial reality that you can seriously crap out another of your partisan defenses against a woman who is raising reasonable and logical concerns about the unworkability of our Governor's pension games? When I ask myself how this great nation can fall to such levels of disgrace, people like you come to mind. Your type explains a lot. Now as Dannie says, scurry on and steal someone's words to lip lock on some ass kisser who believes that borrowing, lying, and pretending is the way to continue to run this state and nation. You can do it. I've become confident in your talent rip people off.

Anonymous said...

one should always speak their mind partyhackery be damned . Mayor Miner has everyright and obligation to cll Bs whenever she sees it !

Thin skinned , mean spirited ANDY 2.0 is only showing his true colors now. This plus his history will make him a non viable dandidate for national office . . Should be a one term governor here too.

Anonymous said...

Middle Class Mike is a force to be reconed with people, whar's this cost Owens votes crap. So where is his challenger Matt Doheny, who barely edged Owens out here in Gun Nut territory hanging out these days, How is it the Mayor barely won re-election last time out? Mo one ever came theat close to beating him? Miner should be worried if MCM is ticked off at her and backs Hogan, becuase she's in for along primary grind.

Anonymous said...

By all means. Lets get rid of the woman as Mikey demands. The last thing we want is a real woman with the courage to speak the truth. We want women like Mikey, who follow orders to the letter and change beliefs on command according to what their party leaders tell them to think. THIS is the war on women you hear so much about from the Fools. They're not so much into women being included and respected. Mikey and Dannie types are into women who know their place. Now that Miner has stated the truth to Gov Dictator, Mikey has called for her head. Why am I not surprised at his manliness.

Anonymous said...

The problem with Middle Class Mike is that we can hear his accent even when he doesn't sign his comments. And as an ACORN transplant, he is unaware that someone came closer to beating the mayor in 1999 than Smith did this last election.

Anonymous said...

I have to wonder if 10:57 was student of Mikey's (a Master Teacher according to him) That was sure some fine use of the English language.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 1:29PM

Who? Tell us who came closer.

Anonymous said...

MCM doesn't have an accent, so find another reason not to like him. He says somethings that need saying, what do you say? Nothing.

Anonymous said...

Obviously Ms. Miner is a person of integrity. She speaks her mind no matter what the consequences.

Only people who lack integrity fail to recognize this.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

Mayor Miner's on the way out as Democratic Co Chair, I'm sure her contract to work with Hillary's 2016 campaign is a done deal. The only problem is she's not going to be a very effective Mayor for Syracuse, now that she has zero influence with Gov. Cuomo is she? This loser needs to go now.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Anonymous said...

Mikey if you want to know who got more votes against Graham why don't you Google it? I'm not going to help you with your coverup. If ACORN can pay you to shill in our local media they can pay you to learn the history of the locality you are infiltrating.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 10:03 AM Yeah sure, I don't have to 'Google' it I know the answer. You're obviously misinformed.

MCM

Anonymous said...

One year, a progressive guy named Butler received more votes than Graham and interrupted the wonderful leadership Graham has giving this city. It is the price Graham pays for being honest and outspoken. The bigger price was paid by the voters as they quickly had buyers remorse.

There were apologies to a city manager and micromanaging of her engineers. A shooting and a request for outside investigations. But most time was spent on a sidewalk and property maintenance code that has never been enforced and has never been enforceable.

What does this tell us about Mikey? It tells us his disturbed droning drivel and superfluous supercilious silliness, actually hurts the guy he is trying to help.

That's right Mikey...the guy running against Graham, without your help, actually won. And the guy that ran with your help lost.

It tells us ACORN is not getting their money's worth out of you. And you don't even have enough respect for your job to, "do a little research".

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 8:15AM

We know Butler won, you said someone came closer then 162 votes, and that isn't so is it. How you phrase something lends meaning to what you're talking about. The question should have been did anyone ever beat Mayor Graham? Not your statement, "And as an ACORN transplant, he is unaware that someone came closer to beating the mayor in 1999 than Smith did this last election." Came closer implies, he was closer than a 162 votes but lost in his bid to beat Mayor Graham." So try saying what you mean and sticking to it even though it’s hard to stay focused when you lacking in IQ. As for this acorn crap, I've never even meant anyone who was part of ACORN, so once again you show your willingness to lie and slander. Of course if you had a clue and at least one idea you wouldn't have to libel and lie about me.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Anonymous said...

I never mentioned 162 votes or any other specific number.
I said someone came closer to beating Graham than Smith did.
Well...you cannot get any closer to beating him than actually beating him.

And its all in response to you nonsense about smith coming so close thanks to you.

Well Butler came closer thanks to you not being here. Smith probably would have won if you were never born. Graham should have sent you flowers on election day and a thank you card.

Miner can only wish that you come to Syracuse to help her opponent.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 9:33 PM

Funny I Jeff never had a problem with my help. Who did you help? No one right. No involved? Blah, Blah, Blah

MCM