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Sunday, January 20, 2013

WDT: Owens Would Have Voted No on Cuomo Gun Law

   North Country Congressman Bill Owens has broken ranks with this state's Democratic Governor and says he surely would have voted against the recent gun control bill passed in the dark of night in Albany.
Rep. Bill Owens
   Mr. Owens says the ban on so called assault weapons and the limits on magazines will do nothing to solve concerns over incidents like the killings at Sandy Hook.
   The three term Congressman from Plattsburgh has an "A" rating from the NRA and says he can support more universal background checks and that President Obama's recent speech is a start to a conversation about guns, but the Congressman reaffirmed his support of the Second Amendment in today's WDT interview.
Watertown Daily Times | Congressman Owens supportive of universal background checks, against assault-weapon ban

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's easy to say he would have voted no on this law. Unfortunately, it's his party that promotes this kind of stupidity. He will get a chance to prove his views on freedom if a bill comes up in Congress. Our NYS fascists made thier point. With all the mouth foaming of Benito Cuomo, he's now a candidate for hormone replacement therapy.

I hope Owens is telling the truth. But he will have to stand up to Nancie if he wants to use his own brain.

WEE HAVE TO STOPPP THE MADNESSSSSS IN NEW YORKKKKKKKKKK!!!!

Anonymous said...

The fact that a bill does nothing to solve the problems facing us did not stop Owens from voting for laws in the past

Nancycare, for instance, did nothing to address runaway spending on healthcare. it did not give us universal coverage. It did not address the shortages of healthcare professionals and facilities. It did not address the costs of medicine or the high costs of torts.

But that didn't stop Owens from voting for it. In fact he says he is glad he voted for it.

Right Handed Left Winger said...

Without competition...the most ineffective Congressman that NNY has ever had. Does not have a clue what is needed, how to get it, how to use it. He always is right up front saying "what I would have done"...when something important happens, yet never in a position to forward an opinion prior to the vote. He is just a laughable member of my political party. An absolute zero.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with 8:00 am's skepticism. The NRA does a pretty good job of rating politicians stances on 2nd Amendment issues but their rating system doesn't take into account the importance of a vote. An anti-gun politician can vote pro-gun multiple times in committee votes where the vote doesn't amount to anything and then when the vote comes to the floor where it really counts, he will vote his true anti-gun position. He will still have a pro-gun rating because of all of his "mean nothing" committee votes. Considering Owens' striaght party line votes so far, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit into the wind, until he proves othewrwise.

Anonymous said...

If he was a state sen. he would have voted yes Who is he trying to kid

Dan Francis said...

No more than ever I am convinced that Mr. Owens is a jerk. Yes, it is easy to say "I would have voted no..." that's a cop out.

He is flat wrong about the assault rifles (or on some cases assault pistols) and hi-cap magazines ... flat out wrong... there is no way on Earth that anyone needs a 30-found mag or drum for self-protection ... if for range shooting, keep them locked up at the range NOT at home under the bed.

I think most people can and do in fact support (I do 100%) the 2nd Amendment just like the others in the Bill of Rights - the people's rights, but common sense has always prevailed I thought.

I think Mr. Owens totally lacks any on this issue. That is unfortunate, but it plays well for his NRA "A" rating, I guess...

I suspect he'll get a nice PAC check for the next midterms race.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how Doheny would have voted.. Owens and Doheny squared off on the issue but their beliefs were basicly the same. Giving the crediblility gap I have to believe Doheny would vote for it.... By the way what can you tell me he has done for NNY this far after the election.. You know anything he has done that has helped anyone but himself up in NNY..

Anonymous said...

Danny you are not the voice for me and what I need so STFU. Thanks remember the women who only had 5 shots?

Anonymous said...

Owens: Danny, the jerk store called and they said they are out of you.

Danny my motor pool friend, there are two great reasons to have a 30 round clip. Ones is that outlawing them does not save a single life or make any of us safer in the least.

The other is for defense, in case a mob of people attacks your person or possessions. Mobs like the mobs of democrats that used to lynch blacks in the south. Or the mobs of Obama voters that rioted in LA and smashed Reginald Denny's head in with a brick.

Anonymous said...

After reading the above "gun guys" saying Owens is a jerk....What can I say?

I'm a former NRA member, but quit after getting a phone call saying the U. N. was going to take away our guns. Sorry, no support from me for stupidity.

When connecting the dots...All I can think of is the bodies of little 6 and 7 year year old children torn up by an assault weapon, and Bill Owens supports the NRA and assault weapons?

Bill Owens has lost my respect, and everyone like me.

Bottom Line: The gun guys think he's a jerk, and he has lost the support if guys like me...Time for him to resign or retire.

Anonymous said...

Listen up Boys and Girls. Time for me to Man Up, and offer an apology for beating the absolute snot out of Matt Doheny on this blog for months because I believed in my heart of hearts Bill Owens was the better man.

His latest B.S. stance of defending the NRA and the supposed 2nd Amendment rights they espouse has me discouraged beyond belief.

My beliefs that Bill Owens was a Man's Man and A Stand Up guy were wrong. It turns out he is just another political hack dining from the trough of the NRA. You can bet I won't be fouled by him again.

Anonymous said...

Matt is probally out trying to make a living and recouping some of the money spent on trying to serve goons like you in congress..

Anonymous said...

If the Dannie types get their way, we won't even have the right to defend ourselves. He and his ilk want everything locked an "under the bed". I'm sure an intruder will leave his gun in the car when he comes in to beat the crap out of you and your family. What a dumbass.

Anonymous said...

“My beliefs that Bill Owens was a Man's Man and A Stand Up guy were wrong.”

You may be right, but he still remains the better choice of the two.

Anonymous said...

Doheny was pro-NRA too and ran on that platform. No chance he would have taken a position against his platform this early in office. He would have rejected the bill as well. No doubt. He was way more right then Owens.

Anonymous said...

Actually 4:19, it was Dannie who called him a jerk. Don't blame it on the "gun guys". Dannie is more of a bend over guy, certainly not a gun rights person. You got all confused during your politically correct ramble.

"I used to be NRA..." blah blah blah. Yeah, got it. And now you're a UN kinda guy. Even Mikey is probably smart enough to look at those folks with suspicion. We know what you really are. You believe in whatever you think people want to hear. Sir, being a coward and believing in nothing, or the UN, is no way to be looked up to.

Anonymous said...

Owens position is the smart one and Washington democrats will be dropping this topic as fast as they can. 2014 is coming and this issue could lead to the republicans having a super majority in the Senate.

ray lear said...

One question...

Where's my IHOP he promised.

Anonymous said...

1:17: No, I am not a "U.N. kind of guy. I'm just smart enough to know the NRA rep. was blowing smoke when when saying the U. N. could control our guns. I figured if the NRA has to lie about something as false as that, then they are probably lying about almost everything.

Dan Francis said...

I would not change one word in the 2nd Amendment, but rational common sense is needed where insanity now is the rule of the day.

30-round mags and/or drums attached to AR-15's or hi-powered pistols are not needed for self-protection or hunting ... sport shooting at a range - fine - keep them at the range under lock and key ... keep a gun or two at home for self-protection but it need not be heavy-duty class and we all know I am talking about.

? said...

how do you know it won't take 30 rounds to down a wacko on meth breaking into my front door? Who are you to judge?

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

“Congressman Owens deals with the Reality of ‘Gun Control’ legislation in a Republican Congress”

Bill Owens is sitting in a Republican dominated Congress looking at it from the stand point of what ‘Gun Control’ legislation can get through Congress. Stronger background checks are a major plus for gun control advocates.

Ultimately Gun Control legislation will be ignored in Red States by Republicans and embraced in Blue States by Democrats in office. At a Federal level members of Congress have to find issues about 'Gun Control' that are mutually agreed upon, and they are few and far between. Stronger legislation for Background checks is a good starting point and Owens is confident it could pass in a Republican dominated Congress. An example was set in NYS on Gun Control for the nation, and many States will follow that example, and that points the way towards reigning in gun violence in America.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Anonymous said...

Danny is the Piers Morgan of Watertown NY with his high capacity magzine talk.

Anonymous said...

What part of the 2A do you view as insanity, Mr Francis? The country is safer than ever before. Violent crime is down. Yet you and your type are always clamoring for more laws. Surely motor pool military intelligence taught you to address the issues involved. Stay focused. What your party tells you to say should always be questioned. That's why you and yours lost the Vietnam War. I feel for ya. It has to be a tough legacy for you to deal with. I'd be angry too.

Anonymous said...

The question regarding the UN is can a Treaty trump the 2nd Amendment. I say no, others say yes

cat rancher said...

How do you decide what's good for my house/ Only question I have. It's my home, not yours or the governments. That's what bothers me. I have all these rights and you seem to think you have the right to tell me what you think is good. Yes a 30 round clip is over done in most cases. Unless I am coming up against a person who has a rifle with 30 shots. Not everyone plays by the rules.

I don't want to tell you what is okay over at your ranch, why ask the same from me. The old flag still stands, Don't Tread On Me!

Anonymous said...

No conspiracy theory:

google please:

UN small arms gun treaty"

for example:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14237-un-general-assembly-votes-unanimously-to-hammer-out-global-gun-treaty-today


"Un Gun Grab on Pace for March" by
Joe Wolverton 01/17/2013

or

http://www.infowars.com/united-nations-small-arms-treaty-not dead
by Kurt Nimo and Alex Jones.

? said...

Mike and Dan....

Just take a long look at Russia and China. The average person has no right to own a gun. The government in both of those countries can hang you for less then having a gun. Still in both countries a real active mob runs the country like it's Disney on ice for thugs. Most of the government tries to turn the other eye to keep from being gunned down in the streets. Japan has the same problem. Do you think people have to keep their doors locked in these places? Yes they do. Double locked.

Remember what looks good isn't always good. Our calm country to the North (Canada) has people being murdered by guns. I'm sorry, you can fight all day long. It's been tried and it doesn't work.

I give you one thing....
What will work? Very good question. See that's what needed to happen. No running to Capital Hill with laws that are pulled out from under a seat of a Dodge. We need laws that will not only work in the long run, but are not hatched from anger and fear.