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Monday, January 7, 2013

No Offense to Tofu-eaters When You Watch the Local News Tonight

    The media is big on the proposal to build a National Grid electric car charging station in Watertown for use by traveling motorists using all-electric vehicles.
    The 220 volt stations exist now at Davidson Chevrolet, but this proposal before City Council is based on a state grant, so it is viewed as free, or nearly free, money.
     I have two sets of gut feelings...on the one hand, having a spot on the map as part of a database for such travelers is in theory the neighborly thing to do.
     On the other hand, why is this the government's job ? Like so many aspects of the green agenda, it is being fueled with so much public subsidy.
    It was the skeptical view that gripped me when interviewed by John Moore on the subject moments ago.  I think I gave the tongue in cheek soundbite about the demographic subscribing to this version of "free sh--". (I of course didn't use such coarse words in John's presence.)
    Of course, Big Oil has been subsidized over the years too, but sometimes you get sick of the socio/economic engineering of human behavior. I still don't know of anyone with an electric car, unless you count golf carts.
    I suspect Council take the station as its only $600 local share and future electric costs, which are minimal if no one uses it. We've been conditioned by many years of these kind of grants from Albany.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

So the city will give free electricity to the driver of an electric vehicle in competition with a private company that makes a charge for it? Doesn’t seem right to me, but if you all are feeling flush I’d be happy to send you my National Greed bill each month and then I’d be a bit more green.

Anonymous said...

Can I charge my golf cart on it?

Anonymous said...

Just saw you on channel 7 and I love it! Berkley instead of JCC(SUNY)?

Hard to believe Obama got elected in our district when it seems everyone on the council is on the correct side of this.

Dan Francis said...

Tax payers must not be expected to pick up the tab for this, and if so, give us free gas, too. This is a no-brainer - should not even come before city government.

How about a parking meter machine sort of gadget? Drivers pay for it, then they use it.

tic toc, tic toc.

Anonymous said...

Dannie will be able to commute with it, as he lives near the golf course. And its FREE, and from Obama, and someone else will provide the electricity, and it will make us feel good, and its cool, and it will be a complete waste of (other) peoples' money, so let DO IT!!! Remember the Chevy Volt that Obama and Dannie types were so big on? Gone. So's the money. Again, not Dannie's, ours. He's exempt from most taxes.

Mr Mayor, your interview on Channel 7 was priceless. Good for "Volvo drivers" and "those who went to JCC but wish they went to Berkley". Perfect.

Anonymous said...

In all honesty, your performance on the news tonight had no dignity, no decorum. What the hell has happened to you Mr. Mayor? Tofu, Volvo, Birkenstocks. Really. I am against this charging station thing as well, but your class warfare mentality is showing through. The insecurity level is like Nixon and the Eastern Establishment Ivy Leaguers he hated so much.

Anonymous said...

No offense taken mayor. I saw the little news bit… dumb, but it plays well here in the North Country. And as the official “go to guy” for all things political, you get to have a little media “face time.”

Anonymous said...

Those that voted for Obama voted for this. He said he was going to do this.

Will everyone get an electric car and then be dependent on the government.

Anonymous said...

I do not wish to make a political statement, there are better people than me able to do that. All I wish to say is that your so-called tongue in cheek sound bite was cringingly embarrassing.

What is worse, the fact that your follow up does nothing to rectify your gaffe. I am a JCC grad, would have loved to have gone to Berkeley. Your interview tonight was as offensive as it was insensitive.

Anonymous said...

No gaffe by the Mayor. He said want he wanted to say. Last week he proclaimed a Family Bargain Store for Carthage was like getting a Nordstrom's. Ugly, but he's right.

Anonymous said...

Mayor Graham, You are exactly right when you said, why does green energy always have to be subsidized! Please read up on UN Agenda 21 if you are not familiar with it and its ultimate goal...it is very scary stuff and the type of projects that Ononandaga County is part of since it is fully on-board with implementing it even though it is bankrupting the County. Check out the website www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com for real life stories of what is happening around the country....it can only be stopped at the local level......folks need to speak up, stand up and never give up! The Unitied Nations website all the info as well with 400+ pages in it.The scary thing about the UN is it does NOT believe in PROPERTY RIGHTS! They need to go!

T Fleming said...

"On the other hand, why is this the government's job ? Like so many aspects of the green agenda, it is being fueled with so much public subsidy."
Bingo! Just like the wind power companies won't build without gov't subsidies because they simply can't make money standing alone.
Maybe I'd agree with the charging station if Uncle Sugar wants to help me out with my vehicle fuel costs.

Anonymous said...

labeling and stereotyping is sophomoric, Jeff, even if I'm with you on no government subsidy needed..

Anonymous said...

9:05am nailed it...

Anonymous said...

You know what is funny is that the tofu crowd takes you to task for playfully teased their demographic, So what do they do? They retort by insulting all of the north country and the gifted minds that live here. I guess they wouldn't be tofu eating libruls if they weren't hypocrites too.

Anonymous said...

“I guess they wouldn't be tofu eating libruls if they weren't hypocrites too.”

I’m a gun toting ultra conservative who drives a gas guzzling truck. I graduated from JCC, I read the NYT daily and on occasion I wear Burgonstocks. I happen to love tofu -- your point?

Anonymous said...

But 8:04, we LUUUUUVE class warfare. It was proven to be the most effective campaign strategy in the last generation, thanks to folks like you. You wanted it, you got it. Enjoy yourself. Not literally but in a manner of speaking. Whataya drive a Volvo or something?

Anonymous said...

Point is that you are a liar...
but since you spell it Burgonstocks,
you probably did graduate from JCC.

Anonymous said...

What example did you just set for the people who look to you as our Mayor and I use that title lightly. You just bullied and stereotyped a group of people on National Television and that is NOT ok!!! No wonder children are not safe even in the schools look at the examples our government and leadership is setting for our young people. You are NOT a good Mayor, NOT a good leader and over all a Not good person.

Anonymous said...

National? Hey, the photons don't stop at the boarders! Jeff bullied and stereotyped a group of people on Television that radiates into our entire universe! At minimum, he is guilty of a hate crime. But seeing him fight progress of the greenies, he is guilty of crimes against humanity and the planet.

Anonymous said...

UN Agenda 21...this is part of their plans....nobody commented about it except for mysefl yesterday! Check it out.....if you don't think it can happen here...it already is here. Every citizen should be informed...don't be a sheeple!