Sunday, January 6, 2013

Gun Forum

    I haven't read anything about Friday nights's gun forum in Watertown, other than a post by Middle Class Mike.
    Did I miss coverage of it ?

29 comments:

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

Mayor Graham:

Bart Bonner and Charles F. “Chuck” Ruggiero, taped the show for airing on their 'Time Warner' cable show. I don't know when it will be aired, but I'd love to give Chuck a call and see if I can be a guest on a future show to discuss current Cuomo legislation coming out of Albany, NY.

Might be something for you to think about to discuss school security, etc.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

Strong legislation on 'Gun Control' coming as reported below:

From Capitol Confidential article Friday

Klein: IDC and Cuomo say gun control top priority
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:39 pm by Rick Karlin, Capitol bureau in Andrew Cuomo, Guns

The five-member Independent Democratic Conference just emerged from a private meeting with Gov. Andrew Cuomo and IDC leader Jeff Klein said they talked about gun control, which both parties agree will be Job One when lawmakers start their session later this month.

“We need to do it in January,” said Jeff Klein. The Bronx Democrat, though, offered few specifics on the gun control legislation that Cuomo is drawing up, other than saying it aims to be the nation’s toughest law and it would likely include a ban on assault style rifles such as the AR-15/Bushmaster rifle that was used in last month’s Newtown, Conn. tragedy.

“We need a real assault weapon ban,” said Klein, who, when asked also said he hasn’t yet spoken with the other piece of the Senate’s governing coalition, the Senate Republicans, who has in past years been the sole conference that has stood in the way of several gun measures

Anonymous said...

He claims they wouldnt let him speak, He accused them of being ultra-conservative, A school super ultra-conservative??????????

Anonymous said...

Nope, you didn't miss much. One fruitcake started foaming at the mouth and they almost had to spray him down. Mikey looked his usual hobo self. Can't imagine putting that guy in a classroom, the kids would start crying. Then Mikey posted that law abiding gun owners were ready to start a war. That was neat. And the forum was on Friday. Media is drinking on Friday so no one was working. They hate the sponsors anyway so they have to ignore it. Too busy giving us the score of Hogansburg vs Salmon River middle school girls modified vollyball.. That's about what happened. So far. More trivia and hysteria expected from the Mikey. Dannie unusually quiet on the topic. Must be no directions received from Donkey Central.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

Stop deflecting from the issue. Why can't a school Supt. be Ultra Conservative? - Chuck and Bart both made statements they were Ultra Conservative. As for Fralick he sat there with them and was part of the whole format and never said he didn't fit in with their thinking. If he's not Ultra Conservative let him say so; he's sitting there with them - he should clarify if he's not one of them in a forum setting like that, or it can be misinterpreted by the audience. I believe he was a strong Doheny supporter, and he had the NRA and other endorsements he ran on. MCM

Dan Francis said...

Anon 1:30 -- back off - my position on guns are well known and clear and have been for decades ...

And pleae do me the favor of stop pretending you know me or my thinking on topics ... and I do not receive any instructions from "donkey central" - never have and never will... just ask them. I know where my loyalities lie and they do not lie per se with any party, label, mandate, rule or bullshit hardline partisan nonsense we see today... much of what you spew. But, nice try.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 1:30PM You can't say I looked like a hobo - everyone else there would then be said to look like a hobo idiot. As for trying to hurt my chances at employment in education with your 'stupid' talk. There is no justification for me not being hired, it’s understood I know history inside out which I'm certified in NYS to teach, along with SPEECH; I have two masters one in Education, the other in Communications. Academically I was always 'Highest' honors The fact that I wasn't snapped up is really unfortunate for the students of Watertown dummy. A program I helped start in NYC in the Bronx, is now Citywide in all five boroughs for students at risk -all weapons violators - and was lauded on the front page of the NY Times as something that worked for kids at risk. Most went to College. I didn't need to pack a gun to deal with my students. What the hell have you done in education you rude moron?
MCM

Anonymous said...

I did NOT say you looked like a idiot hobo, I said you looked like a hobo. Most of the hobo's I knew were pretty smart. And again, if you're going to use appositives, as you with in the sentence with "Watertown dummy". Put a comma between the two. I'm surprised you could get through so many degrees, even if they were education degrees, without being taught that. As far as being a guest on anyone's show. Try learning something about the topic involved first. Like Dannie, your views are party dominated. In fact, you make Dannie look like an independent thinker the way you bend over for BS. Mikey, listening to you tell others about gun control would be like listening to Feinstein talk about the same topic. You're ill informed, partisan to the extreme, close minded, ignorant of facts, and have your head up your butt. Why would anyone, on either side of the issue, wish to consider you an honest broker of information? Mikey, you're a stooge. A badly dressed stooge. The only person impressed with you is you.

Anonymous said...

I saw it MCM looked like a HOBO, Sorry Mike just saying it the way it is, your idea that the students in the area are the real losers because you can't teach them is unbelievable, And yes its hard to believe A school Super is ultra-conservative, And Chuckie R. has always had a Govt. job, now he has one at JCC, hook up with him MCM maybe you can get one too.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 4:42 PM

You’re picking the wrong guy for an enemy –I’m one of the best advocates for a cause in NYS. The people that are impressed with me are the people I help get elected dummy. I'm sure you worked for Doheny and his people, and they were so influenced by your copy they elected him right. Jude Seymour is a great example of that type of guy. Mr. Press Seymour couldn’t get out of his own way in that campaign, and it was comical to watch him try to write intelligently about defense issues, etc. So what have you done in education? Better yet did you graduate High school? Ducked the question didn't you concerning all your educational accomplishments - which clearly amount to none. Yet you’re an authority on who should teach, you couldn’t hold my jockstrap stupid.
As for looking at both sides of an issue moron - clearly that is so beyond your closed NRA mentality, it’s not even worth talking about.

Guys like you motivate me - I'm going to make sure I help get the severest legislation on gun control passed in NYS possible. Then I'm going to work to make those laws even severer over time in terms of jail time, etc. How do you like those Apples? I'll remember those children shot up in Newtown, everyday for the rest of my life, you're the type who's already forgotton how and why they died, it might interfere with you going out to buy an Automatic weapon with a high capacity clip and that would just wreck your day wouldn't it.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Anonymous said...

Time to put a halt to this anonymous name-calling, Jeff.

Anonymous said...

I just have one question... what kind of gun would Jesus own if he were around today... an Uzi, AK-47, a Bushmaster, a CZ-805 BREN, a Heckler & Koch G11, a M4 Carbine, a SIG SG 550, or a Zastava M21?

? said...

So in all after Mike and friends get done bashing each other, we learn nothing about the forum. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

?, I agree with your statement… but let’s be honest, whether you agree or disagree with him, MCM has a right to his opinion and he didn’t start the bashing... 1:30pm did with his customary personal attacks.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

? said: "So in all after Mike and friends get done bashing each other, we learn nothing about the forum. Thanks."

I wrote a short item on it - read it and bash it-like you do everything I write -without making one sensible contribution of your own. ? you make one silly comment after another criticizing me and others who comment here. What's your motive? Let me guess NRA stooge spreading the message. Here’s message –Gun Control is a new fact of life – get used to it.

'Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'

Anonymous said...

MMM did have an opportunity to speak but droned on. The program last 2 1/2 hours with over 60 people in attendance. Quite a few people asked questions and when the topic of guns came up, I don't recall seeing Mike's hand in the air at all so I didn't think he even attempted to ask another question. It seems the organizers were trying to be fair and give everyone a chance to ask a question. If you didn't have your hand in the air, you weren't going to be called on. At some point, the program had to end and the SOB staff had to lock up and go home. After 2 1/2 hours, everybody had a chance to speak.

Anonymous said...

Why should we get used to more controls on our lives MCM, We didnt kill anyone the other guy did just leave us alone........

? said...

All I ask from Mike is that he have some paddle in the water. He knows nothing about guns, I guess that he doesn't own one. I could care less if he never owns one. But he shouldn't go all over the web all silly nilly worried about my right to own fire arms. The same goes for the NRA. i don't belong. Still I can't blame them on what happened at that school. It was, for a thousand times, to do with the dumb ass mother. She bought a total moron guns and left them for him to use. Don't you get that Mike? No one told her do do this from the NRA. If anything they preach fire arms are dangerous and you need to understand it's on the owner what happens when they are miss-used. I have never seen anyone from the NRA tell me to buy guns for my kids and just let them run the streets with them. She paid for her stupid ways. Plus the poor kids payed for her. Why can't you get that? Hide your head in the sand and believe in gun control. We have several laws right now, they don't work for people who have no fraking brain! All she had to do to still be alive was put trigger locks on the guns. Which every gun seller in NYS suggests now. But mom knew better.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 3:45

People like me were promised 3 minutes to speak about 'Gun Contro' at an open MIC. I was personally promised that by Bart Bonner in a phone conversation. I did raise my hand and made a 45 second comment to Supt. Fralick about using technology to enhance available security, by screening people before they entered the building. I mentioned Chuck had a lot of expertise in that area as a security expert. I also suggested that he have an open forum for parents to discuss School security, so they could make suggestions of their own. That took a minute. So you lied about me 'Droning On' because that's what you do when the facts aren't agreeable to you; you lie.

"Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike'


Anonymous said...

I wasn't there. And with Mikey on a self promotion trip, I'm kinda glad I missed it. I watch it on tape as I hear it is going to be on the internet tomorrow night.

Mike, you seem so afraid of everything, you should know that my feelings toward you are not personal. I deal with fools all day long. Listening to you is not stressful. I just wish you and yours would concentrate your energies on things the might WORK. You are using the murder of children to further a preconceived notion that more and more useless laws that effect only law abiding people will make us safer. At least that's your public position. On a personal level, I think you know this is not true. No one with your education and experience can possibly believe that these kinds of laws, ignored by criminals, will work if we simply layer them on top of each other. To you, and Dannie I believe, it is simply a party line lock step parade that due to this tragedy, is sellable to a worried and misinformed public. As I've said before, you would outlaw beagles if you thought there were votes in it. To people who love freedom, you are the worst kind of American there is. You will trade freedom for something you KNOW will not bring safety or security to any of us. And you will either do so out of dishonesty or political expediency. To me, its lying either way. And I do not look at you as an enemy. I feel sorry for you. I also feel sorry for all the people who sacrificed over the years so people like you could throw your personal bias around and limit the freedoms of others. If these knee jerk laws were productive, that might make some sense. They will only make things more difficult for law abiding citizens, and will be ignored by criminals. And you know that. Which is what makes you such a disappointing person. Party before everything, eh Mr Flynn?

Anonymous said...

One more thing, Mikey. You're not going to get a teaching job if you refer to the Superintendent as an "ultra Conservative". You have to continue the suck up routine. You can do it. I have faith. I realize you don't but as Stonewall said in the movie, I'll believe enough for the both of us.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 9:05 You hide behind and ANON entry, engage in character assassination -but never address issues in a sensible way coward. You strictly the no guts kind of guy I despise, nothing to say and getting dumber everyday! As for working for Fralick I have no interest. I do consulting work now, that pays well, so quit the crap about me needing to work at a teaching job.

I want him out of that job -his explanation on what he's doing for school security showed he's incompetent by him saying, "WE keep our doors closed now and don't let Teachers put door jams in so they can run to their cars" WOW -now Watertown schools are really secure. The parents there thought he was way off the mark too, and when people see the tape I think they'll agree. He also denied bullying went on in Watertown HS and everyone knew that was a lie after a child committed suicide. Time for him to be out of a job, he's done a terrible job with our schools and academically they're rated in the bottom third of NNY. The list of his incompetent acts goes on and on; don't have time to cover them here. Watch he won't give parents the time of day by having an open meeting on school security, which many parents would attend see happen.

Mike Flynn 'Middle class Mike'

Anonymous said...

So MCM what do you do for a job???

Anonymous said...

There is no character assassination going on here. That's a Dannie ploy to either feel sorry for yourself, or to attempt to set up a junk lawsuit. This is political free speach, and your type hasn't been able to outlaw it, yet. I'm sure you'll have a decent chance to do so in the future. As for the "anon" orgasm you have on a regular basis, there are only two people with an ego big enough to parade their name here on this OPINION FORUM. Can you guess who those two are? Go ahead? Think. Who thinks they are better than everybody else?

Rather than play victim, why don't you answer the question? Why don't you concentrate on ideas that will make us safer, rather than puke up the same old ineffective BS laws that are only respected by law abiding people? Nothing you barf up will influence anyone intent on hurting someone, or obtaining a firearm illegally. You can't be stupid enough not to know this, yet you continue to advocate for meaningless legislation.

Choose. Play victim, or address the question.

Jeff said...

Does anybody who wants to implement more gun laws or get rid of "evil looking black rifles" AKA..what the msm calls "assault rifles" actually look at the "actual" statistics that are available to them via the internet? The FBI has the stats for firearm deaths by type...guess what, less than 400 deaths by rifle for the last year reported. This is "all" rifles,, not just evil looking black ones or the AR types the msm would like to BAN! Middle class spoke about automatic weapons,,,,he should do some research and figure out on his own that "full auto" firearms have been ILLEGAL since the 1934 firearms act! They are heavily regulated! What people are calling assault rifles are not by the definition of the 1934 act, actually assault rifles as the Lame Stream Media would have you believe! Lack of Morality, and personal responsibility are bigger factors than semi-auto firearms in the hands of LAWFUL GUN OWNERS! Ask yourself why does this adminstration want to ban these type firearms...they want TOTAL CONTROL...nothing more...nothing less! If they were so concerned about gun violence...how come race baiters, the Rev Jesse Jackson and Sharpton are not up in arms in Chicago condemming the deaths there?

Stand up, Speak up, Never Give Up!

? said...

Mike and friends wants us to all line up at a government ran building and take our meds. We would own nothing. We would be allowed to do what they say. No way to defend our homes from criminals and the government controls.

YOU KNOW! RUSSIA!

Anonymous said...

Newz Flash 100,000 new NRA members.

Mike Flynn 'Middle Class Mike' said...

ANON 8:54

Back at yah!

400,000 people have signed on board with "Mayor's Against Illegal Guns" in America.

NRA hasn't got the numbers to stop 'Gun Control' so "Forgetaboutit!"

MCM

Anonymous said...

Consulting work?
Hahahahahahahaha