While that bit of birther red meat may entice some GOP primary voters, it's a widely discredited viewpoint and makes Ms. Greene's prospects dubious if she were to pull off an upset next Tuesday over likely nominee Matt Doheny.
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For all her charm, enthusiasm and quick answers on issues, being a birther is not going to win a general election, regardless of what people think of the job Mr. Obama is doing.
A Greene win on Tuesday would be a big surprise, although the expected low turnout makes predicting with certainty difficult.
Doheny is more electable for a variety of reasons...Not being a birther is just one of them. Media insiders predict low to mid 30s for Ms. Greene. (Well, at least the two of us who mused about it yesterday)
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Stick a fork in her
How about low to mid 20's for a prediction?
You are probably right. If you are smart enough to doubt the pseudoscientific proof of Obama's birthplace or global warming, you would still fair best to keep it to yourself during an election and just say that it is not an important issue when asked about it.
The fact is that we have no way of knowing where Obama was born because the forces that put his inept a$$ in the white house are some of the most powerful in the world. Certainly powerfull enough to produce "evidence" or suppress facts for this long ago event.
{chuckle}And you said you wouldn't ask any gotcha questions. you know full well that is a gotcha question.
You should have asked her if she believed Obama was worthy of a peace prize instead. The MSN has not successfully portrayed the skeptics of that award as lunatics on that one yet.
You and Amaral making predictions again ?
I disliked her trying to push the wealth issues. Sure Doheny has money. Sure so does the Dem. Get to the real meat and taters. What will you do that's different in DC? Not the money the two men have. I don't think making money fist over arm makes a person bad. It just makes them smarter then her.
Media and the Dannie types have ganged up on the birthers. But down the road, it will be shown that we had an illegal president. There's too much smoke around this guy. And he's not exactly an honest person.
Was that your Jeep parked at the Pearl at 12:00 noon on Wed. Did your buddy pick you up for the show or was it pre-taped for editing purposes? I hope if you got a ride from Matt he at least bought you a nice lunch. The whole thing lookd fishy to me.
Can anyone explain to me how the birth announcement made the Honolulu newspaper in 1961? Ms. Greene just giggled and failed to answer that part of Jeff's question. These announcements are put in newspapers under 'vital statistics' and are gotten directly from the hospital, not the family. I've yet to hear an explanation on that from anyone since this whole birther non-sense started.
I used to think that Clinton Backers started the birther movement and they are still the ones pursuing it in court using Republican Lawyers for cover. It now seems clear that Obama started the birther movement. His publishing agents presented him as being born in Kenya for 16 years and did not change his Bio until 2 months after he started his run for the White House. Numerous articles were published claiming Kenyan birth, but he only corrected an article that claimed he was raised in Singapore. College friends have stated that he presented himself as being born in Kenya.Four days after the Arpaio Press conference, which also claimed that his draft registration forms were forged, the Selective Service office made a policy change and destroyed those forms making it impossible to prove the claims. Obama's life story is filled with lies. I do not blame anyone for having doubts about his past. He is a bum that needs to be thrown out as Romney will be in Four Years.
Can anyone explain to me how they know the birth announcement was in the Honolulu newspaper in 1961? Did you...like...save your copy? How did you know you should save your copy? And did they vet those announcements as well as the WDT's did Spezzano's wedding announcement?
Sounds like global warming caliber proof to me.
The fact that you even asked the question shows what an idiot you are Mayor.
Talk about vetting a candidate. If nothing else, Ms. Greene’s appearance with Mayor Graham revealed the lunatic fringe she and her Tea Party cohorts represent.
Buh bye Kellie, your 7 ½ minutes are up.
Shhh… Hear that little popping noise on here? It’s the sound of “birther” brain bubbles.
Remember when Ollie North told a congressinal hearing back in the 1980's that the biggest threat to America was a then little known jerkweed named Osama Bin-Laden? Remember how he was laughed at and ridiculed by the congressmen of that committee? Twenty or 30 years from now, it will be interesting to see who was right on this issue, too.
Wedding announcements are not listed as vital statistics in a newspaper my illiterate brain dead tea partier friend. Try reading one sometime instead of listening to Hannity.
That is hilariously clever 1:19...and proof that birthers have brains.
Let me see if we can sum this up. For years, a guy claims to be born in Kenya and then changes that claim. His supporters produce supposedly authentic newspaper announcements to support his new claim. Even if those newspapers announcements are authentic their accuracy relies completely on the person who submitted the announcement. The curious are denied access to his birth certificate by officials in Hawaii but Obama gives them a copy of a copy of the short form instead. His father is from Kenya and his mother is a nomad who dragged her little son around the world with her and fed him dog meat.
The MSN has shown they are willing to ignore highly controversial stories about the anointed one and there is motive and opportunity to cover up this whole issue.
Kellie Greene has never claimed to be born in any other country other than the good old USA and her parents are both from 'swago, yet the reporter thinks her birth certificate is as relevant as Obama's.
That right there is MSN librul logic for ya.
Anon 9:20 - he NEVER claimed to be born in Kenya. He has always said he was born in Hawaii; damn, he even wrote a book about it.
And the birth announcements in the papers came from information sent by the Department of Health... the owners of the information. There is a preponderance of EVIDENCE (ie, something that would be admissible in a court of law), including 2 certified birth certificates from Hawaii and their verification of the facts on the birth certificates. Birthers are idiots, and politicians who pander to the birthers stink of desperation.
And then there's the writer of his biography, who also claims an African birth. And he's an Obama supporter. It do get complicated when telling all these truthy tales.
1:25 {chuckle}it was Bill Ayers that wrote a book about it.
How would you know if Obama claimed to be born in Kenya or not at any point in his life? You would have to be interested/curious and actually look to see if he had made such a claim.
Is the flyer that Obama paid a publicist to put out which claims Obama was born in Kenya a fake or a lie? Why lie? For the better student aid?
Birthers may be idiots but they are no more gullible than people who think the issue has been proven false.
Actually there is credible evidence on both sides of this issue. Obama is hiding something, perhaps his place of birth or perhaps he was receiving scholarships under false pretenses since Grade School. This man's whole life has been a lie.
Okay, let’s assume just for the sake of argument that Barack Obama was born in Kenya to an American mother who couldn’t get a flight home so her baby could be born in her native home the fiftieth American State of Hawaii.
So what?
Here is what the Constitution of the United States says about the qualification for President of the United States:
"No Person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States..."
The Naturalization Act of 1790 stated that:
"the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens..."
Nowhere does the Constitution say you have to be born on American soil to be a natural born citizen.
And since Barack Obama’s mother was an American citizen that would make Barack Obama a natural born citizen, NOT a naturalized citizen.
Even if the ‘birthers’ (and it is still a big IF) are right about where Barack Obama was born, they’re wrong about his being disqualified to be President of the United States because he was born on foreign soil.
He’s still a natural born citizen of the United States because one of his two parents, his mother, was a natural born citizen of the United States.
Still not convinced? Well don’t just take my word for it; here is what a Georgia Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi recently had to say:
“With regard to the challenge that Obama does not have legitimate birth and identification papers, Malihi said he found the evidence “unsatisfactory” and “insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations…
A number of the witnesses who testified about the alleged fraud were never qualified as experts in birth records, forged documents and document manipulation and “none … provided persuasive testimony,” Malihi wrote…
Addressing the other claim that contends Obama cannot be a candidate because his father was never a U.S. citizen, Malihi said: he was persuaded by a 2009 ruling by the Indiana Court of Appeals decision that struck down a similar challenge. In that ruling, the Indiana court found that children born within the U.S. are natural-born citizens, regardless of the citizenry of their parents…
Obama “became a citizen at birth and is a natural-born citizen,” Malihi wrote. Accordingly, Obama is eligible as a candidate for the upcoming presidential primary in March, the judge said…”
So, given either scenario, your point is still entirely pointless… and you are rapidly running out of what few and tiny “birther brain bubbles” you may have left.
SOURCE:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgia-judge-barack-obama-is-a-natural-born-citizen/
5:28 there is more than two sides to the issue. But the one side that does not have credible evidence is the side that says the issue is settled and tries to make the birthers out as wackos/idiots/conspiracy theorists.
5:28's post is the best yet. A thinking person doesn't know what to believe. O's supporters are eager to cover anything up.
For months on end, media wouldn't even talk about it, even though there were many credible reasons to debate the issue. Then, after limited evidence, they do the Dannie and try to belittle anyone who still suspects Obama's story. Just like campaign cycle, there's more to this.
7:53 is right. Ollie North was ridiculed by the Dannie types a couple decades ago when he talked about the threat posed by a dick named Osama BinLaden. What a yuck yuck that turned out to be. Libs, and Dannie, have a track record of being wrong and running from the truth.
And who would know better than greasy Ollie since it’s a well established fact that Osama Bin Laden was officially recruited by the CIA in 1979 and the relationship didn’t end until the late 80’s.
BS 1:23.
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