Reaction continues to roll in to the SCOTUS ruling on Obama Care...Predictably along party lines as the issue shapes up as a focus in the NNY race.
Rep. Bill Owens was a key vote to approve it two years ago. His opponent says its a job killing law.
However....be wary of promises to repeal it on January 20. The GOP would have to hold the House (likely), get a 60 vote majority in the Senate (impossible) and win the White House (50-50).
Likely, we are stuck with it for better or worse.
The interesting thing will be how this area's historic love of free stuff coexists with alleged conservatism....
I don't think Obama Care cuts much either way....Those who are livid about it already know who they are voting for.
Many others will accept the Court's ruling and see what happens in 2014 when key provisions of the law take effect.
Statement Regarding Supreme Court Ruling On ObamaCare | Doheny for Congress
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All it took was one defection for this Nazi law to stay in effect. You knew Sotomayor and Kagan were in the bag. That's why they were appointed. Ginsburg is senile. Roberts had some kind of bug up his ass. Or maybe he just threw in the towel to what the country has become. We are now Nazi Germany. Time to gather your eggs, hunker down, get what you can for yourself, and say nothing publicly.
Good to see you have upped the odds of Obama losing to 50/50.
Your healthcare analysis ignores the new executive privilege of picking and choosing what laws to enforce.
I believe President Romney can repeal Obama care by issuing waivers to states exempting them from the requirement to set up an insurance exchange. Once one or two waivers were issued other states would quickly fall in line and ask for a waiver.
The politicians either didn't read the health care bill, or didn't understand what they read, before they voted the bill into law. They lied when they told us it was not a TAX.
The Chief Justice read the law and determined that in his legal opinion it is indeed a TAX and that congress has the authority to enact new TAXES.
Pay attention when you're being lied to people, (which is most any time a politician opens his/her mouth)! But no worry just line up and vote for more FREE stuff politicians at every opportunity.
The republicans will not need a 60 vote majority if they break Senate rules, as the democrats did to pass it. A 53 seat republican majority is likely, so only a presidential veto stands in the way of repeal.
Only Nancy Pelosi can grant waivers on this health care deal. At least she's the only one who has so far. She has granted many in her own district.
Who is this Nazi Germany nut that keeps spewing his bilge over three threads now? To compare Nazi Germany to the present day USA is an insult not only to our great country, but to those who suffered as a result of the Third Reich. Please stop your idiotic nonsense, drama queen. You only help the Obama side with your over the top emotional rants.
I just learned something great watching Fox news, (which is the only channel I watch.) Because the mandate is deemed a tax it only takes 51 senators to repeal Obamacare! Isn't that great news?
Don't feed into the misinformation spread by the Liar in Chief. The Donkeys only had the 50 votes to pass this Nazi law, why should the Elephants need 60 to repeal it? Now that laws mean nothing on many fronts, who knows how many votes it takes to change a law.
Hey, how about that John Roberts? I know this is not saying much – but he has to be one of the smartest conservatives to come along in decades.
“Who is this Nazi Germany nut that keeps spewing his bilge over three threads now?”
Sadly, there's nothing coherent about the Republican base any more. If there were, we wouldn't be subjected to the stupidity from the likes of 3:47PM that seem to typify the crazies that drive the GOP extremist train of late.
See the inverse of Godwin's Law.
Unfortunately, Nazi Germany is what we have become. We have the Fuhrer in charge, the courts in line, the media corrupted, and the people loving it. We have laws selectively enforced. Outright bribery used to pass legislation, and party officials failing to respond to the lawful inquiries of other, legitimate branches of government. I realize your homones are raging and you would rather not talk about it, 8:59. I wouldn't either. But there is no limit to the First Black President and his power. You and your ilk will agree to anything. NO ONE with a brain can accept where we are headed financially, yet people like you do. Just as the Germans of the 1930's, party line is more important to you than anything else. I've lived my life in a free country. It will take a few more years for you and yours to destroy everything. But I commend you. You are well on your way to shredding this nation at a much faster pace than any could have imagined just a few short years ago. Its not your fault. Its OUR fault. We let the schools go and we obliterated all standards. Then we completely turded our country with lawyers. I'd use a better term but I'm a product of the public schools. Then we created a victim based society, where all are suffering because of someone else. We followed that up by handing out money for perceived wrong doing, mostly guilt. We felt so bad. About what we have no idea. But we sold the idea that if you don't feel bad, you don't care. And if you feel guilty, you write a check. The idea grew and grew until it destroyed our work ethic. Now we have EXCUSES. If someone is a failure, its because of someone else. Perfect. Hitler did the same thing. Only instead of blaming corporations or the rich or Wall Street or the Martians or whatever, he blamed the Jews. We can't do that because its unoriginal. You gotta be original, creative. And if your not, get a friggin grant. You don't have to be good, you just have to whine about it and someone will give you a check. Taken from someone else of course.
I guess Roberts is smart to call it a tax even though it is labeled a penalty and doesn't go the the IRS. Because that way it only takes 51 to clean this mess up. But it would be better if he were honest instead of smart.
So.........who came up with the idea of the individual mandate?
The Affordable Health Care Act is in point of fact the Republican's party’s 1989 proposal from the right-wing Heritage Foundation entitled "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans." Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a condition as the “individual mandate.”
That directive made its first legislative appearance in 1993, in the Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act --- the Republicans' alternative to Clinton's health-reform bill, and was sponsored by John Chafee, of Rhode Island, and co-sponsored by eighteen Republicans, including Bob Dole, who was then the Senate Minority Leader --- and was the cornerstone of the health care reform plan implemented in Massachusetts by the current Republican candidate for president Mitt Romney.
It didn’t become “bad” for America until Obama adopted it as a way to conciliate the unhinged, and hypocritical lying Republicans on the public option.
Dumb Republicans...
I also find it amusing that Romney said he will get rid of the law, but keep the provisions like refusing to allow insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.
However, the requirement that everyone must buy insurance is what was to help offset the costs of such rules.
His plan or lack thereof, will actually lead to huge increases in healthcare costs as insurance companies don't gain enough new customers to offset increases in expenses.
Dumb Republicans...
Very cute, 7:32. That's new baloney. I always new baloney was best fresh.
So did Obama steal the idea from Romneycare or from the Heritage Plan? either way, if he thinks that highly of either one of them then I have to agree and Romney should be President. that way we would get the good part of Romney without the feces part which is Obama. The 15,000 IRS agents. taking over student loans. Bribing three states with billions to get their senators to vote for it. Taxing tanning. Free no co-pay birth control. On and On and On we see that romneycare is is in Obamacare as a snickers bar in a sewer full of turds.
Oh, and here is another FACT the conservatives will love...
There is one big difference between Obamacare and Romneycare…
ROMNEY CARE PAYS FOR ABORTIONS!!
OBAMACARE DOESN’T!!
Don’t believe it?
Here’s the proof:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/nov/27/fred-thompson/indeed-abortions-are-covered/
Dumb Republicans…
I like the fact that you called that guy out on the Nazi stuff. He killed you. And you changed the subject. Very neat. Hahahaha.
Let's talk about ... er a um Romney. We could could continue talking about Germany, 1930's, and the lawlessness our country has developed of late.
Hahahaha
Libruls love abortions and now they say Romney will give them to you for free. It makes perfect sense for them to vote for Romney then.
The facts are that Romney as governor was not the totalitarian dictator that Obama is. He did not control both houses like Obama did and he followed the law and enforced the law, instead of picking and choosing.
With democrats having a disproportionate say over Romneycare content, it makes sense that it would contain some things Romney did not want. But since you libruls love killing babies you should love it even more than Obamacare. Dumb libruls.
Republicans are terrified because they know that in the coming years, Obamacare will eventually save lives, save money, and be wildly popular with the American people. For them, the thought that Democrats - once again - were the ones who passed a landmark social program that will serve to define our society and define ourselves for generations to come is too much to bear. They know this spells the end for the tea party. They know this spells the end for Conservatism as it has been practiced for the past 20 years.
They know that a win for them would have come at the expense of the American people, and this loss was a huge benefit for society as a whole. That's the definition of being on the wrong side of history.
7:32 excellent post, and it all checks out, but I’m afraid you are wasting your time arguing with a couple of clueless idiots.
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