On that matter of cottage owners registering to vote in Cape Vincent in order to influence local elections over the wind issue.
I was talking today to a Watertown resident who has a camp in the Cape he seldom, if ever, goes to anymore but he had registered there to vote this year. What I was told is that people came to him and ask him to re-register just for this year's election. That would suggest the anti wind crowd went down the rolls of property owners and talked more than one person into this.
The question becomes a technicality, but there is a core point. Do voting rights derive from property ownership or residency, as measured by whether one has any tangible tie other than a deed ?
Its an interesting debate, and in most cases, as long as you vote in one place, there is little consequence.
However, an organized effort to recruit property owners means anyone who happens to own a parcel with a 9-1-1 address could be a voter. Seems a little over the line.
It would be a good enterprise piece for the MSM to review those voter rolls.
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Besides Rochester excrement, the Cape now doesn't seem to mind accepting dead bodies from the city across the lake. How funny. I'm not sure why you are acting surprised about any of this, Mr Mayor. The voting reregitration was an organized effort to have people who didn't reside in the Cape to make tough political decisions. I would just love it if the same people realize that they are now empowered (love that BS word) to shut down overspending in their ward's fat and happy school system. Those same anti winders could just as easily decide the Capers don't need such a pork laden school district. Wouldn't that upset the local boyz and girlz. Save the planet and all that. One thing's for sure. That town will continue to provide entertainment for a long time to come. All the while they get to see windmills right in front of their face.
Was it legal? Yes. You seem to be more concerned with where the voters spend their time than with the years of corruption that preceded and resulted in this voter activity. Why are so many long-serving officials blind to the corruption? It must be like working in a cow barn- after a while, it doesn't smell offensive.
The MSM should have done an enterprise piece on the conflicts of interest. A long time ago.
Interesting, were always told part-timers dont count, but in this case were wrong.
We get plenty of Watertown excrement here in the Cape too... no one cleans their mess up perfectly.
Interesting defense, 5:10. The Cape has just finished one of the most blatant manipulations of a local election I've ever seen and you're defense is that you hadda do it cause there be corruption. Hahahaha. OOOOOKKKKK Mr Rightous. You and I both know the reason for the imported votes was to overturn the local support for wind spinners. When logical arguments like "my heart will stop" and "they might fly around and cut off peoples' heads" didn't make it, you trucked in votes from people who didn't live there. Now you have to live with the results. But don't tell us you were fighting corruption when it is you who smells so much like single wides and septic tanks. Hahahahaha. I see you're importing body parts from Rochester too now. Did that dead guy get to vote too? I'm sure he was anti wind, even though that's what gave him a free ride to your shoreline. Hahaha. He probably heard about your corruption problem and was coming up to help out. Hahahaha.
The ends justifies the means. It would be really stupid to mess up the waterfront with government subsidized automatic PILOT spinmills, when the waterfront views are the only reason anyone ever went to Cape in the first place.
If you mess up the view even further then you will just get more trailers and less evil rich people enjoying that waterfront.
That means more tire fires and firecrackers on fourth of July but the rest of the summer those unwashed masses have to work, so they won't keep your economy going.
I was approached by the Councilman elect John Byrne, one second with that guy and I knew he was a snake, so it doesn't surprise me that there I something fishy about the registration drive they had.
There is nothing illegal about it . They are landowners and probably in most cases they pay more taxes than people that live there all year round .
10:56, the irony of it all was the trailer park people who use the river as their own personal septic tank are the same people who were concerned about messing up the waterfront. If they are really concerned with the cape vincent waterfront why dont they drag their sh!tty trailers back to Rochester?
1150 couldnt be more right, Byrne is a snake
Our seasonal residents pay over the majority of the taxes in this town and keep all the local businesses afloat, so it seems logical that they would be interested in changing their voting status to the Cape. Of course lets not forget another factor for their switch, the AG's investigation into corruption by our Town and Planning board officials. The wind developers don't have clean hands either...so unless you have experienced your town being targeted by these foreign companies you have no idea of the level of corruption that is involved. When your Town and Planning Board takes action against the will of the people to line their own pockets with wind leases, the people have to step up. In this election cycle, the citizens stood up and said ENOUGH! It is funny how the MSM seems to have ignored the corruption in the Cape, wonder if they have wind leases as well.
Sorry 6:16, despite the investigation, there has been no determination of wrong doing by anyone. All your claims are just that. And your use of this so called corruption to justify your purchase of an election, accomplished by importing votes from other regions, is laughable. I am now going to watch closely to see it these same out of town voters decide to shut down your school boondoggle. As you like to repeatedly say, it will all be legal. If you could only find a way to recycle single wides and overflowing septic tanks, you could shovel all the money you want into them schools.
One previous poster asked why the Rochester folks don't take some of these sewage spewing trailers back home. Reason. They don't allow such garbage in their home communities. Only the Cape encourages such lovely additions to the waterfront. Free flowing sewage into the River, no problem. Wind, oh my God no. Hahahahahaha.
As someone who sees no issue with the creation of wind farms in the town of Cape Vincent as well as the Town of Lyme, I don't see how it is right for non-residents to have voting rights. I am a resident of Lewis County and have multiple windmills within a very close distance to my house. I am a strong supporter of Wind Energy in the North Country as well as across the United States. Cape Vincent's population (the year long residents that is) are composed of a very similar demographic to that of Lewis County. That is most residents make a fairly low income and jobs and additional income sources that would be brought in as a result of the wind farms are crucial for many people. Part-time "residents" of the town should have NO voting rights for this issue or for issues involving local politics. Why should people that only live somewhere a few months out of the year have any say over the lives of those who are full time residents who would benefit from the construction of wind turbines. Whether we are talking about wind turbines or about election of local politicians, I don't believe that people who are not full time residents deserve a say in the day to day occurances of their part time community. There interest should be in fact in the place that they live at the most. In order to make a full determination one must examine the summer population number to that of the winter. Those that live there for the full time have the full vested interest in what occurs, not those that come to their summer homes or cotttages for a few weeks or even weekends a year. These places are not their primary residences, and these people do not reside in Cape Vincent, but only vacation there. Have some respect people. Let the members of the community decide what they want!
I don't own property in Cape Vincent but I love it and I'm there a lot on my way to Canada. I shop, eat and spend lots of time in the Cape, it's the greatest secret of the Thousand Islands. Unfortuately the Cape suffers from the same things we all have in Upstate NY, HIGH TAXES and the constant tourism decline thanks to Homeland security! Remember when a seasonal business could support a family? NY State Property owners are paying through the nose for an overfunded school system and entitlements, (oh I know, it's for the children). People need cash, signing up to vote down windmills for some may be the answer to saving their property values. Albany is the problem here, lets fix it!
Thank You Mayor Graham for bringing voteing in Cape Vincent up.Newly elected John Byrne is truly a snake in the grass and Clif Schnedier was mad a few years ago when he lost the race for the council seat and told people he couldn't beleive he was beat by two dumb farmers.Well the only way they were able to win this one was by getting people to change their voteing to Cape Vincent.I hope you keep an eye on Cape Vincent Town Board,I think you will have alot of things to write about.
The reason the Cape is such a secret is the fact that they encourage single wide trailers with no sewage systems attached. While allowing this, they go nuts over windmills. Windmills they ALREADY HAVE influencing their property values. They made the wrong stand. And they made it with imported votes that take advantage of the fact that they allow such garbage to flow into the river. It has to be the dumbest community around. But they do provide entertainment.
Hey Sean Jolliff! It is debatable if part time residents should be allowed to vote in the cape. The law says they do. But there is no question that you don't get a say in it.
It is the dumbest community around. That's why they had to import voters to make sure they did not further ruin the one and only commodity they have...waterfront views.
If it were up to 9:26 and you gave him a goose that lays golden eggs, you can bet he would have goose for dinner that night.
Hey Mayor, remeber John Breen???
Don't forget all of the people that voted that do not even own property but because they may have a relative that lives in CV thay where allowed to vote also. Just another gray area according to the BOE.
5:19 Dufus, the view down there is already changed forever due to the fact that there ALREADY ARE windspinners right in front of the Cape people's faces. The debate in the Cape was whether to put them in BACK of you. How stupid can you be?
Give it up 11:46 and sell your BP stock. Just because there are some across the river in Canada does not mean they should build even more of them here and ruin the area even more.
I know you hate rich people and are jealous of those that can afford a half a million dollar house out of Tibbetts Point and I feel for you. You have done a good job at bring those property values down to your level. But don't you think you have brought them down far enough?
I know you like free money and windmills fly on automatic PILOT running on free money and Cuomo just found another two billion free money by cutting taxes and BP needs the money to clean up what they did to the Gulf Coast. So you have lots of points...its just that no one is buying your points. 'cept maybe people in Lewis county.
I don't think people change their voter registration lightly. They won't just do it for any old reason. Go ahead and just ask someone to change and see how far you get.
People changed because of the government corruption - it's amazing that only a few hundred changed, actually, considering the extent of it...
WARNING!! WARNING!! Apparently the Town of Lyme also has problems with septic systems dumping sewage into our most valuable resource, our waterfront, according to Lyme councilwoman Boo Harris who resides on Three MIle Point. She stated that these 50' waterfront parcels cannot support an effective septic system and her neighbors'sewage is spilling into the water her children swim in. These are longstanding issues that need to be addressed.
Did she suggest they should hire her husbands engineering firm to design and build a sewage treatment plant?
Well, you'll certainly have a much better chance of getting that addressed when honest, responsive public officials are elected to office...
It sounds like at least one person in town of Lyme cares about keeping the lake clean what about all those trailer parks along the lake and river shore? They should be inspected also.
http://ceinfo.org/loci/resources/North_Coast_Final_Report.pdf
for all you naysayers who don't believe Boo.
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