Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Fee Schedule | New York State Liquor Authority

Wow, a three year license to sell beer in a ball park is only $676. Funny, nobody ever thought to look that up before...or apply to get one.
For some time, I have been the voice in the wind suggesting that people with franchises should be licensed and thus accountable. In fact, it surprised me to find out in recent months that the facility in question had not been licensed before.
I know its a complicated issue if you are not in the biz, but we have all had to jump through the hoops at some point to comply. That's why its only natural that when you are in the business, you expect others who want to be, to do the same thing.
Kind of like a lawyer or doctor who don't want those without a license to practice in their field.
Two days ago I learned of another request for a franchise after I thought Council had already dealt with requests for this year. That will have to get looked at.
  A uniform licensee, with a facility in place all the time, and a City policy on sales is what I have proposed be worked on for future seasons.
   That would involve a competitively bid RFP.  For those concerned the City will profit, I don't think the municipality responsible for enforcement should have a direct monetary interest in the volume of sales. Besides, our cut on that is the portion of sales tax that comes our way.
    The City should formulate the policy, sell the franchise and rent the facilities at rates that reflect costs. That's my view for those who like to characterize it elsewhere.    
Fee Schedule New York State Liquor Authority

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Can the costs for patrons be kept down that way, which if you recall was all Middle Class Mike was concerned with Jeff? What do you think a beer will cost at that point? Maybe we could get it down 3.50 a beer a 33% savings for people.

Anonymous said...

It is not that I object to government earning profits, I just don't believe they intrinsically have the drive to do so consistently.

The market forces and timely feedback do not exist. If you ad up all the legacy costs and lack of feedback on the fiasco you are trying to fix it would be astounding. If you consider how long it took to come to light it is astounding. The private sector is much more responsive and much less forgiving of incompetence.

Anonymous said...

Mayor is time for you to pay attention to another subject besides beer sales?

Why not look at a bigger picture maybe why the whole parks and rec problem occurred to begin with and review the people who are responsible.

For pete's sake get off the beer sales soapbox will you! The majority of the public is concerned about other things in this city like our streets.

Anonymous said...

I disagree with the "let's change the subject comment on beer sales." comment. Councilman Jeff Smith thinks it's an important issue why can't it be discussed and why with all the confusion is it wrong for people to want clarity? It seems making a beer available at a reasonable price is only fair for people attending events.

L.A. Moore said...

There is more to discuss then just a reasonable price for beer. The mayor is looking out for the city as he should.

He wants to make sure that legally the city is protected. Though I may not agree completely with the mayor, this is a step in the right direction. I look forward to attending more counsel meeting to see how this progresses.

As a stop for some bigger bands, the doors are opening for many more. Hopefully things will work out and we can keep bringing great entertainment to Watertown.

Anonymous said...

Maybe The Fairgrounds should be off limits for alchol use, except at Ballgames. Tired of looking at beerbellies all over the City.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely 5:03!
And a reasonable price is whatever someone wants to charge for them.

If you would like to be a promoter and schedule the same act and sell beer cheaper, then by all means do so.

Anonymous said...

ANON 9:03

I agree a fair price works for everyone. $2.75 to $3.50 is what I think is a fair price and I'll give being a vendor there some thought if that's what will get the price to a competitive level for everyone. No one should have a monopoly like at the last major event.

Anonymous said...

Why dont we look at how the State Fair does this,OHHHHHHHHHHHH wait the Pataki-minion was brought up on charges he mismanaged the facitity for personnal gain. If no one had a license, or did the license go for the whole fairgrounds?

Anonymous said...

Several years ago the city sold the former Clock Grill Building for a substancially reduced amount, with the understanding that the new owners (Black River Adventure Shop)would repair this building and make it look better from the exterior too..... I believe that Mr. Jeff Graham led the charge on this issue..... I recently passed this business and see that little to nothing has been accomplished outside at this shop..... Why has the city fallen on it's responsibility to follow up on this matter? Are they spending too much time micro-managing the Park's and Rec Department? This eye sore needs to be addressed ASAP......