Every time I see the folks filing into the City Clerk's office to get hitched...Its a process free of impediments and Mrs. D. and I often speculate on what her rate of recidivism will be next year.
Now, its not only ridiculously easy to get married (formerly a sacrament till government got involved), it's easy to get divorced.
This no-fault divorce law now in effect sounds like divorce on demand...No separation needed, because no reconcilliation is anticipated....
Since government ordained marriage is just a civil union contract designed to access "benefits", it doesn't mean that much anyway....
Marriage should be the domain of churches...I would feel a lot more reluctance to walk away from vows in front of a priest than I would a civil contract issued alongside dog licenses.
No-Fault Divorce Becomes Law In NY
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Everybody always misses the point about marriage. Yes its about love, and children and yada yada yada. But most importantly its about the money. In 'BR' times, (before Reagan) every wage earner filed a return and paid their tax, you could file jointly but still paid 1 + 1 tax. Then Reagan eliminated the so called marriage penalty, and allowed joint filers to pay 'less' then 1 + 1. Now everybody wants to get married. I am even considering it but my dog doesn't file a return. I say get rid of that stupid tax break, and let everyone pay their full share and all this I want to marry this one and that one will go back to something only churches and catering halls made money on.
wrong wrong and wrong.
Reagan eliminated nothing.
Unless he ruled from the grave in 2001.
Up until then, a man and women making $50k each would pay less in taxes when shacking up together than they would if they got married.
Not a so called marriage penalty...
A marriage penalty properly named.
Marriage is still a sacred committment to my wife and i and yes it is a shame that in today's society it has been tarnished by a genuine lack of both respect and the ability to both sustain and nurture a relationship. We as a society are very weak and always take the EASY way out and refuse to endure the slightest of situations . It is reflective of the downward spiral in attitude which is endemic in Politics, and both in organizational and relationship behavior .
A long time ago Walt Kelley ( sp) of POGO fame said " we have met the enemy and it is US " -- so true and so unfortunate -- we have LOST OUR WAY as a society
7:42 I am wrong, it wasn't Ronny, although he talked about it a lot. It was the greatest president America ever had, George W Bush who did it. From Wiki..."Since then several pieces of legislation have been passed to further do away with the penalties. For example, the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 introduced section 1(f)(8) to the Internal Revenue Code, which mitigates the marriage penalty effect in the lower tax brackets.[4] Section 1(f)(8) adjusts the ceiling of the 15-percent tax bracket for joint return filers relative to the ceiling of the 15-percent tax bracket for unmarried spouses.[4] The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 accelerated the benefit to joint return filers by eliminating the marriage penalty for 2003 and 2004 and the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004 extended the benefit to 2005-2007.[4] Therefore, the marriage penalty in the lower tax brackets will be eliminated through 2010." Next year my dog is filing a 1040. I'm getting on the gravy train.
Sounds like it expires this year and reverts back to the marriage penalty.
And it sounds like they never fixed it for high income earners.
I quote from Liz Weston of MSN. "Why are gays and lesbians trying so hard to get hitched, you might ask, if marriage is so hard on the wallet?
The reality is that marriage has plenty of legal and financial benefits, including tax benefits. Even before Congress changed tax rules in 2001 to deal with the so-called marriage penalty, more married couples got a tax bonus from being married than paid a tax penalty:
51% of married couples paid less tax jointly than if they had not been married, according to a 1996 Congressional Budget Office analysis. The average amount these couples saved: $1,300.
42% of married taxpayers paid more by filing jointly than they would have if they'd remained single, the office said. The average penalty: $1,380.
The people who got tax breaks by marrying were those with disparate incomes, where one spouse earned more than the other. The wider the gap between the paychecks of the husband and wife, the bigger the bonus." End of story. Marriage pays.
Most of these comment are mercenery and self serving and its only about $$$ - it is NO WONDER why the problem exists . You are all screwed up in the values department --Marriage should be about love and committment and mutual sacrifice and building trust , love and improving society .
- i'm frankly disgusted by the self centered , shallow lack of values being expressed here by most of you on THIS topic --
8:40 why are you repeating to us comentors a quote from James Dobson's, Focus on the Family, pamphlet. Maybe if read it over and over you might actually begin to believe it. 8:40- Are you married, are you happy, and how many years. Yea, I though so. All bravado, "Do as I say, not as I do"
No-fault divorce is like "no-fault" driving insurance ... it's BS.
Someone is always to blame/or at fault... on purpose or otherwise.
The real problem is that we all mostly try to duck responsibility in such matters when we are at fault.
That's a huge part of an overall bigger problem.
9:36 wrong again ! Never Read Dobson or any other right wingnut . We simply have been raised with values and are willing to accept responsibility and build relationships both in personal and professional environments . And yes we been've married to the same woman for 45 year .
The facts about societal and familial decline and lack of backbone are crystal clear and have lead to much heartache for many
I do not condone this law, but we have it. The trend in society has been to care about self. When we make decisions we ask will this be good for me, how will it effect me, and what can you do for me.
Generations have drifted from the family and family value, now anything goes as long as it is good for me.
I continue to shake my head.
Marriage was invented for ugly men.
Most of these comment are mercenery and self serving and its only about $$$ - it is NO WONDER why the problem exists . You are all screwed up in the values department --Marriage should be about love and commitment and mutual sacrifice and building trust , love and improving society .
- i'm frankly disgusted by the self centered , shallow lack of values being expressed here by most of you on THIS topic --
I am frankly disgusted that you do not think it is important that the taxman takes more money away from those that enter into this mutual sacrifice loving commitment for the good of society.
No fault divorce is not absolutely necessary but they sure needed to add a bunch of other faults besides the couple options they had.
7:57 your comedic brilliance is overwhelming -- ever consider a career in stand - up ??
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