A new Siena poll shows independent voters fleeing Democrats...that's independent and in no way should be confused with the Independence Party. The result is a slight erosion in Andrew Cuomo's numbers...He doesn't have to worry, but Democrats in marginal districts (like the 48thSD) need to take note.
Come November Ted Ford will vote for all Democrats and Graham Wise will vote for all Republicans. Folks like that are not in play.
There are increasing numbers of voters who are not as well marinated in party politics and they could care less about the party moniker in front of the name.
Darrel Aubertine knows that....it's those independent minded voters who elected him. Now he is deeper into Albany and runs the risk his 'one of us' patina has faded.
"He wears cuff links now," said one Dem.
Siena: Cuomo Slips, Independents Abandon Dems
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Cuomo will slip even more in New York's Energy Valley as voters concerned with ethics in local governments discover that he appears to be standing down on exposing industrial wind corrupted public officials. He is aware. He has been sent letters. But his office refuses to issue an opinion and the wind corrupted public officials will continue to represent big wind and vote on wind related matters.
These officials have been identified on the developer's own web sites as having financial conflicts. Yet Cuomo continues to let them operate on behalf of the big foreign wind developers. Local control of the wind development has been usurped by public officials who have become business partners of the developers. Only a district atty. or an AG can restore honest government on behalf of the citizens.
So, the unethical practice continues to the extent that public officials, who are already collecting money from wind leases, have the majority control of the Town Of Cape Vincent, NY. The one "non conflicted" buddy, refuses to recognize and can't understand that holding a financial agreement for the company that is doing business with the board constitutes a violation of local and state ethics.
The chair of the Town Planning Board, the lead agency, even has wind leases, and the ex supervisor sits on the planning board. For several years, the ex supervisor was assisting the developers, Acciona and British Petroleum with a $150,000. escrow account. The supervisor and the wind developers met on a regular basis to co-sign and cut the checks. The Town was managing the wind developers' money.
If Cuomo can't handle a clear and simple case of local town government corruption, how can he handle Albany?
RWiley- I understand your politival point...but do you need the AG's opinion. your case sounds solid. Round up the folks and take thede jeks to court. I'm uncertain of the law, but often in these ethical quagmires there can be "ethical" violations with no "legal" violations. Unfortunately, with or without the AG's opinion the burden may be on the citizens to bring action. Rather than pursuing a political course of only marginal efficacy, I would think employing the resources of your own attorney may accomplish more.
I need to stress to you, rightly or wrongly, outside the confines of the Jefferson & Oswego areas, most people still think windpower is a good thing.These comments are friendly thoughts from someone that sees you on the edge of marginalizing yourself in such a way, that you have know place to turn.
Yup, lets not have windmills where Wiley can see them from his waterfront property. Lets have more oil spills in places like Louisiana where we don't have to give a crap about nothin'. As long as it doesn't have anything to do with me, eh Wiley? But then go mindlessly forward and vote Obama who tells us he can get energy from voodoo.
Hypocrite
Let it be known,it realy is about your own back yard.Thats the only fight you should all worry about in these trying times take care of what you can.Wind mills are not a good Idea on our water fronts.I agree with Mr.Wiley.Water is like gold we pay enough for it up here. When we have the largest supply of fresh water in world.Just becouse we can doesnt mean we should.Natural Gas,Nuclear Power are plentyfull in Northern N.Y.
Nope Justin, nothing is for here on our pristine shores. Why should we have to watch something spinning around eight miles out in the middle of the lake. We should be able to drive our pick ups and Land Rovers in peace while others have oil coating theirs. Anyone who has visited the coasts of the Gulf and Florida and soon the Carolinas knows their waterfront is no where near as valuable and pristine as ours. Especially the part where Wiley owns. This is all about what is good for us. Something that NYers have a proud record to stand behind. Why pay any price when someone else will do it for us.
"you on the edge of marginalizing yourself in such a way, that you have know place to turn."
A resident of Cape Vincent who has a home worth $150,000. and lives in the overlay district of the Cape Vincent industrial wind complex will lose $50,000 of evaluation when the turbines are put up. And, it is unlikely there will be a buyer who would elect to live near big wind or a bank which will loan the money to do so. Waterfront or country living, mansion or bungalow. All homeowners will suffer the same losses.
And, there are plenty of places for me to turn and the turning is being done as the lawsuits have and will continue to fly. The turning is even easier as wiser people are learning about the horrible impacts of big wind on host communities. The impacted area makes up 40% of the Jefferson County tax base. The politician who is ignorant or simply avoiding the wind issue will not get those votes.
So, the concern, anon. 1:21 is the education of the rest of the county who will suffer the spin off effects as they see a major part of their tax base and their seasonal businesses and income erode. Would you be willing to sacrifice the value of your home and your lifestyle on a bad business model that is possible only because of federal and local subsidies that come out of your own back pocket?
Oooops! You already said wind was a good idea, so I guess you are at least willing to part with the subsidy money part, 70% of which goes to the European Union. The living in an industrial wind park? I doubt it. You don't want to live there and you don't want to buy a home there.
I don't live on or have a view of the river. And, that makes me lucky, because of the Wolfe Island industrial wind complex. The Cape Vincent river properties have already lost millions of dollars in value. And, they can't find buyers. One home, constructed without the knowledge of the Wolfe Island project has already, according to two separate appraisals, lost 400,000 in value.
Independent voters have seen what the Dems have done to NY State. Everytime the Senate is in session the crime rate increases in downtown Albany and another senator is indited.
The city Dems continue to suck every bit of life out of NNY. Siena polls will continue to show a shift to a more conservative and ethical legislator.
These claims pimped out there by Wiley types that your home value will plummet are simply that. The Canadians have found no such decrease despite their ambitious project on Wolfe Islancd. Is this claim like something we heard when they were building nuke plants thirty years ago, that they would all blow up and we would all glow in the dark? This anti windmill disinformation campaign has been effective. It has been able to stop any development of that sort around here. All because Wiley types didn't stand to make a bunch of money by selling their own leases. Its much less harmfull to the environment to blow millions of gallons of oil into the oceans. As long as Wiley pool is out of site of a windmill.
Still a hypocrite
RWiley-reread my post. It was meant as friendly, alternative, thoughts to your issue.
Again reread my post. I never said I favored wind. I said most people outside the confines of Jefferson and Oswego County...and I stand by that. I don't think you comprehend the enormity of the education process you face. I support you folks, but I had a house full of people at my home this week end that don't get the birds, bats, and view argument (I do) and are only worried about their lifestyle...what I see as an unfortunate American attitude.
I really believe (more friendly alternative thinking) that the subsidy argument is your weakest. It seems every damn segment of the energy business is heavily subsidzed, and with many people believing in the clean, viability of wind, they are willing to accept that. Personally, I believe the best way to make wind viable is to redirect emphasis from the giant towers on windfarms to the small towers for local, off grid , production.
As for Cuomo, yes, it would be nice to have the opinion from the AG, but I believe it is political suicide to antagonize the next Governor when you will need help.
You still have the law, with or without the opinion. Round up your allies, get an attorney and take the bastards to task.
Do you understand my position?
Well if he doesn't understand it I do. Now you want small wind towers instead of big ones. Ho hum. Its always something. And it always involves something that someone else does.
Lets review for all the dead people. We use a lot of oil and gas and electricity. Therefore, except for all but the most rarified among us, that means we must make oil and gas and electricity. Now you can't drill, as that is dangerous. So do it waaaay offshore so the water is so deep it makes things even more dangerous. You can't build nukes because most people who went to colllledge the last few decades were not required to take a science course. Therefore, they are subject to science disinformation and quake and shiver at the word nucuular. We can talk deeply and feeelingly about solar, wind, geothermal pizza and rectal gas, as the Great One and all his followers did during the last election cycle, but that only works when the sacrifice is taking place SOMEWHERE ELSE. Like Louisiana. Guys like Wiley would rather have a foot of oil on the shores from LA to South Carolina that have to view something turning around in circles 6 miles off the shore in Henderson. Rememeber, its all about ME. So back to you, 12:24. Do we understand your position? Oh yeah. Its called the lithotomy position. Requires no sacrifice whatsoever and is wondrously fashionable at select parties. You and Wiley will be bosom chums.
"These claims pimped out there by Wiley types that your home value will plummet are simply that."
Simply not true. The Orleans and now the Cape Vincent wind economic committees are concerned.
Local real estate brokers are concerned. One assessor is now getting advice from higher ups on how to handle the depreciating values.
And, simply not true about the Wolf Island property values.
I have spent several days talking to homeowners in their living rooms on Wolfe Island. I am in constant touch with many residents who have found out that their property is less desirable and worth less. They are telling a different story and have the backing of appraisals.
One difference. On the skinny end of the Island, where there is no view of wind and they have hope that their new homes don't tank. But, they are now concerned about getting a view of the Cape Vincent projects across the river.
My apologies to 12:24. I reread your post and understand your position.
I wonder if the homes along the Louisiana coast will lose any of their value? If so, who cares, eh Wiley.As long as we don't have to watch something turn around in circles. I say kill a million pelicans before we allow on spinner on one island in the lake. And thanks to self centered hypocrites like Wiley, that's just the way things are working out. This will ruin the Gulf for a generation. I'm so happy we won't have to see anything turning around anywhere near us. We could have ended up with sore necks. Those Cajuns who supply us with our oil and gas wouldn't want us suffering through anything like that. Its a good thing they got our backs. They must have a great deal of respect for guy like Wiley, who would rather not see anything related to energy production.
Anon 11:31
You still haven't defended your position on why Jefferson County taxpayers should suffer devaluation of their seasonal businesses and seasonal homes as well as permanent homes so that British Petroleum can turn a monster profit in the Town of a Cape Vincent at their expense. The real damage to home values is taking place in the overlay districts
It is one thing for British Petroleum to have a horrible accident that impacts people as a result of their negligence. It is another to have people stand by out of ignorance and allow British Petroleum to knowingly plan the negligence and ignore the impacts right here in Jefferson County.
Frankly, I am not sure that you have enough background information about the local economic studies being done on industrial wind impacts to continue this argument.
But, isn't it fun to hide behind anonymity and call a real person with a real name a hypocrite while skirting around a real genuine local political issue?
Come on over to my blog, Jefferson's Leaning Left and take on the wind experts, or better yet send me a guest editorial on your wind position and I will publish it.
Or, If you wish, you can attend the meeting of the Coalition for the Preservation of the Golden Crescent and Thousand Islands region at 6:00 PM in Cape Vincent, tonight at the rec. hall. There you will meet dozens of people who represent thousands of people who are concerned about the impacts of big industrial wind from St. Lawrence Co. to Oswego Co.
You can change the subject all you want, Mr Wiley. It doesn't change the meaning of the word, hypocrite. No production of energy is without cost. No production of energy is without some sacrifice. But there is one thing we can be sure of, none of this cost you anything and none of this will require you to sacrifice anything at all. You must be a proud man.
Every time we look at an oil poisoned bird in the Gulf Coast or hundreds of miles of ruined coast line we should remind ourselves that guys like Wiley would never stand for something spinning around in circles six miles offshore in Henderson. It might cause him undue inconvenience. But I'll be he hasn't turned in keys to his pick up truck. Not when you can get your fuel from someone else's sacrifice.
To 5:58PM-No you don't understand. My position does require sacrifice. Sacrifice that you and others of you self centered and self righteous ilk don't want to talk about and that is conservation. No, not just raising the mpg ratings a miniscule amount, but you and me changing our lifestyle. Ditch the SUVs, the unnecessary driving of 4x4 pickups, walk when it's an option, and stop ridiculous motorized recreation while we are on the edge of climate disaster and have soldiers still dying for that same black ooze that is killing the Gulf Coast. Ho-hum, yeah, that's you- let's not face the reality of our greed but instead find a way to rationalize with still more oil or nukes. Let's not change our attitudes or our style, it might make us uncomfortable, hell let's make our kids and grandchildren inherit the mess we've made. What makes it worse, we know better, the information is there, but deniers like you have only "ho-hum" to offer.
As for 9:24AM-So you are upset, as you should be, by an oil soaked bird in the Gulf, but you are willingly and knowingly ready to support giant wind towers, some built by the same company that is polluting the Gulf, that will chop up birds by the thousands in their flight patterns. How is a dead bird any less dead by a giant turbine than by oil?
Think damn it. Think for yourselves. You all accuse Wiley about being all about "Me" while you're all doing the same, either collecting your windtower checks or just sitting someplace you think is safe mocking someone that is trying to make a difference.
The issue is how best to solve a problem. Windfarms have become a fad because the subsidies have been directed in a manner that favors the large developers. Let's direct the subsidies towards smaller development and we will have a better option.
Nice speech. The best part of it is the requirements from you. Absolutely nothing. Enjoy your oil slick. Keep up the good fight. We don't want anything turning in your view, Wiley.
People have always looked out for themselves. I guess it shouldn't come as any surprise that things will always stay this way. Most folks are more subtle about it. You, on the other hand are quite open and honest about what is important. When you go to these meetings, you should get a big photo of yourself to carry on a poster. Just to keep people focused on what's important.
2:23PM- it's not too late to get your GED, but you might want to work on your reading comprehension before you try for it.
That's reaching. Must be out of ideas.
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