So I am listening to Morning Joe and some in the MSM are busy defending Connecticut AG Richard Blumenthal who is their clear choice to succeed Senator Chris Dodd in the Nutmeg State....The rationalizing is that Mr. Blumenthal went to funerals for soldiers and bloviated about veterans issues.
Yet the NY Times reported this week, Mr. Blumenthal also on many occasions claimed to have served in Viet Nam and even lamented how when "we" returned from 'Nam he was spit on. It was rhetoric that fit the moment...Statements that created a narrative and no one disputed it. Why would they ? Mr. Blumenthal was one of those "tough as nails" attornies general who is always suing somebody and putting out press releases.
He didn't "misspeak," He lied. He was never in Viet Nam.
Makes you wonder what else isn't true.
Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut AG and senate hopeful, says he misspoke on Vietnam vet claims
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I will take a lying progressive over a Vince McMahon's wife
I'm shocked a liberal will support a lying politician!
As always the anonymous trolls are out.
Here is what I find ironic. For years we heard nothing but venom and vitriol from the Democrats about how deferments and joining the Guard or Reserves during the Vietnam War were bad. Now that one of their own is shown to have done it, the silence is deafening.
dear jon,
first, let me say (as a democrat) that blumenthal's lies about serving in vietnam are reprehensible and he deserves everything that's about to come his way over them.
second, i don't think you understand what all that "venom and vitriol" (your words) over deferments and joining the national guard was about. the problem has never been that people like bush and cheney found ways to avoid seeing combat in vietnam. the problem is that they found ways to avoid seeing combat themselves, but then led our country into a disastrous war, wrapped themselves in the flag and the military for purposes of crass political gain, and turned a blind eye as an honorable solider saw his service smeared during the 2004 presidential campaign.
hermit, while I agree with alot of what you say, please don't insinuate that Kerry was an honorable solider. He destroyed any honorability he may have had going to Vietnam by trashing the rest of us who were there just to make a name for himself.
More than misspoke - a problem with credibility and believability in my view.
Can't say you served in VN when you did not...
And, more than once he DID NOT correct the record.
He has to go.
He lied to build his reputation, he lied to get his political career going,he lied to the people, and he will lie again. He does need to go. No pity.Case closed
Dan has it right. Klemwit has it fowled up. The issue is not Bush or Cheney or deferments. People can disagree about that war, and will continue to do so. What is not acceptable is to lie about one's record. Kermit conveniently tries to change the subject to something irrelevant to the conversation. Anyone who lies like this should, as Dan says, be run out of town. But Klemwit makes excuses. Call it Donkey love. Good for Dan for calling a lie a lie.
I agree that Blumenthal's lies are unacceptable. That's what Kermit said too. Kermit's statement isn't wrong-it's more general than the other statements are. I am tired of one anon telling another anon they are wrong. Each of us is entitled to an opinion, informed or not.
And that's what the world has become. When things are wrong, we are more "general" about it when we discuss it. That way we don't have to go out on a limb and be judgemental of others. One person's lie is another person's mis-speak. If I steal from you maybe I'm just temporarily relocating your property. What this really is about is "new age" guys like Klemwit, who have no standards and cling desperately to justifications for inexcusable behavior. Its ok as long is the right political party is doing so.
dear anon 7:04,
personally, i can't recommend strongly enough just ignoring the resident crackpot anonymous troll -- he's so detached from reality and so addicted to his own outrage that he'll make up almost anything just so he can get angry at it (example: this thread). lately he's been making it easy on us by signing his comments with a variety of mickey mouse names, but even without that, it's usually not too hard to identify him and then stop reading the rest of whatever he's written.
I'd hope that it easy to identify me. My statements are pretty straigtforward. Dishonesty, theft, lying, all the behavours of educated and respected politicians in my opine speak for themselves. You Klemwit, on the other hand, are blessed with an ability to apply moral relativism to these simple concepts. Lies, when told by the CT Senatorial candidate, become mis-speaks. Stealing and misrepresting facts become varying interpretations. This has nothing to do with GWBush, or Cheney or any of the other sideshows you've attempted to inject into the debate. It has to do with a pattern of lies. A man who lies like this should not be a serious candidate for a political office in this country, especially one so high as a US Senator. Sooner or later, Kernate, you have to have the balls to take a stand on something. I mean, life is short. Whether you be he/she/transgender/or just wiggling a bit, go for it. Make a decision, just one, in life. You may find you enjoy having a set of beliefs. It can be an enlightening situation, expecially for a guy/girl/it that has never wandered in that direction before.
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Blumenthal may have "misspoke" as he now states.
Okay, fair enough, but he "misspoke" more than once. Also, many papers and other media outlets printed about him having served in VN -- he never corrected that record. He should have. This is a big deal for anyone wanting to be a Senator or any appointed or elected official. We have to demand higher standards - he lowers them.
Say good night, sir, your 15-minutes has expired.
here i go spectacularly disregarding my own advice, but can i just point out again how incredibly stupid mr. crazy wingnut troll is? to review, i a) unequivocally condemned blumenthal in the first sentence i wrote, and b) wrote about bush's and cheney's military service in response to another commenter who had already broached the subject. if you're going to just make stuff up, then why not do a really proper job of it and convince yourself that bush (or maybe even reagan!) is still president and that republicans control congress and that we're now living in a conservative utopia?
Mr Francis et al, it appears that the first part of Blumenthal's statement were left off. In the beginning of the video he says he served in the military during the VietNam era. Somewhat different from serving in VN. Although that shouldn't count for much with this crowd.
I would expect Klimwit to avoid the truth. We used to call that lying but nowdays its a much more fancy word, mis-speak. And 6:14 tries the same. He claims Blumenthal said he served during the "Vietnam era". Sorry Sir, the CT liar repeatedly said nothing of the sort. He reapeatedly said he served in Vietnam, and spoke of how he felt coming home and being treated badly beause of it. These lies went on for years. Now, because I haven't the tolerance for lying that Klemnit does I am an "incredibly stupid Mr Wingnut troll". Well Sir, you appear to have won the argument with a comeback like that. I have no response for such an arrogant, intellectual, highminded, elitist ventilation of that magnitude. I'll yield to your position. Lying is ok. Next time, using you as an example, I'll try to have a more sophisticated and cultivated response to a politician who is lying to me. You seem to have that skill down pat.
Blumenthal did not correct the record which he and his staff all saw in the press... never once. That is reason enough to doubt his veracity... period. I heard him and I read the accounts... he has to go.
Mis-speaking is lying, no ifs ,ands, or buts, about it. Needs no discussion, justification,or what have you.He needs to go as well as any other political person who mis-speaks.Apparently, he didn't pay attention as a child.
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