It's really hard to know what the folks out there are thinking, especially when you are trying to assess the mood of seven hundred thousand of them spread over 11 counties.
The fact that party "leaders" profess their allegiance to someone used to mean a lot more in the days when the leaders actually led. So the fact the a bunch of endorsements are streaming out may or may not be important.
However, it's hard to believe Doug Hoffman spokesman Rob Ryan when he keep's talking about the nascent surge that is bubbling beneath the surface in the "grass roots" of the district.
While missing a meeting in Hamilton County is not the end of life as we know it, it is important to note that GOP hopeful Matt Doheny is demonstrating crusade-like fervor in pursuing the prize. Constant travel and meetings with endless small groups is how you build grass roots and Doheny is doing that.
Doug Hoffman recently said he hadn't been out as much as his foe because tax season (he's an accountant) kept him busy. I am sure it did, but these days running for office is a full time job. Full time because you have to meet people and raise money.
While Mr.Hoffman surely does have supporters and they likely are not the leaders reporters can easily call to ask their opinion, I agree that Doheny is like the tortoise of yore building the relationships needed to win a primary and a general election.
In fact, I have been seeing more of Congressman Owens doing campaign-like stuff and he has no primary. For instance, the Congressman has made courtesy calls to local Indy Party leaders.....Now no organization is as small or thin as the Independence Party, but Owens and Doheny have found the time to at reach out....I assume they are doing the same to many other groups across the district.
A few years back, I entered a race I had lost four years earlier. I worked hard over the summer and my principle opponent said he was giving the voters the summer off...By primary day the results were dramatic and there was no time to recover.
That's why I think Mr. Doheny is building the blocks needed to win in the Fall and Mr. Owens knows that and is trying to do the same. We haven't seen a lot of that from Mr. Hoffman and a paid spokesperson always willing to be quoted is not enough.
Last year was a perfect storm for Doug Hoffman. That national attention will not happen again, so those grass roots are important. Doug Hoffman need to demonstrate viability soon as the deadline is nearing for Conservative Party chair Mike Long to issue him an out-of-party authorization which would lock up line D......At this point, I don't even know who is going to be gathering petitions for Hoffman. In a special election, you don't have to do that. In a regular election, you do. That still takes some grass roots support, because the party leaders will not help him out if they have cast their lot for Doheny.
There's lots of spicy phrases to describe this moment...I will opt for "fish or cut bait."
NY-23 GOP Official: Whither Hoffman?
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The GOP chairmen are the biggest bunch of imcompetent loosers that ever served in the position. Doheny is an empty suit who will give us more of the same, and kiss up to the coon's of our world.
absurd. Obviously you haven't seen Doheny in action. even though i am a dem he knew my name and that i am a big supporter of wind. i really was amazed at the guy. If I were owens I would be begging for hoffman to get off his you-know-what.
Gee Annon 8:33 - And, the north country is doing soooooooo well with Owens in Congress....not!
How about the Doheny staff in their dungeon of theirs get back to work!
What's a looser?
Hoffman is not getting out and is not raising money. He does not show well in a side-by-side comparision with Doheny who is highly inteligent. Doheny is the right, young, hard-working Republican for this job. I am voting for Matt Doheny.
anon 850.. What action? Because he can recite towns in a county. Because he can speak very well. What actions? What does he do for a living? A Watertown business man heh? I,m afraid you underestimate our intelligence.
Doug Owens is far more quaulified than doheny. He'proven that as our congressman,and is a great family man. Not a wall street reject that spent his free time hanging out in Greenwich Village.
I,m sure the last commentor meant Bill Owens.. Yes he is much more qualified than Doheny or Hoffman. Hoffman will win in the primary mostly for reasons of common sense. Rich and cocky will never win.. I dont know a bout a wall st reject and Grenwich village but I know for sure that the money he has came very easily and its not as a business man. Hes not a family man and I dont know if he qualifies as someone who has had problems paying taxes but I know hes not someone who really gives a sh-- about you or I. Ultimently people will learn some hard facts about this man and some of his friends and I dont think they will accept them. As far as Doug Hofman goes last year spoke volumes for his character. I have been a registered Republican for over 50 years and probably wont change affiliation at this point in my life but I sure am crossing party lines again this year in this race.
Hoffman is out of league with Owens and Doheny. Hopefully the Republicans will realize that their only hope of victory is with Doheny on the ballot, but even at that, an Owens/Doheny battle will be a hard fought close call (if Hoffman is on the ballot I fear it will be a landslide victory for Owens - Hoffman just doesn't have what it takes to win).
3:10 is right. Doheny is all for Doheny and once people find out about him Owens will be stll our Rep. Owens is a good man. Let's not blow this.
Doheney cared sooo much for the North Country that he came back right after McHugh's new appointment. That might also be the first time he registered to vote as a Republican and maybe last year was one of the few times that he bothered to vote.
You are absolutely correct about Doheny coming back here as soon as McHugh announced. He bought himnself a few old solgers from the Dave Martin camp got a few wannabes to help him and spend lots of money and make impressions. He lives by the motto power percieved is power achieved so nothing and I mean nothing will get his way for this ambitious move. Except Bill Owens. WOW he cam recite the towns in the county. That alone will make him qualified to go to Congress.
Doheny has owned a home in Alex Bay for about 10 years and one in Watertown for 4. You can't honestly be saying that that was all preplanned for when McHugh left office? As for Doheny registering to vote - nice try, but you are wrong. I asked him exactly that question. He has been a registered Republican and voted in every general election and almost every primary since he was of legal voting age. I am amazed how uninformed people will assume the worst rather than taking the time to find out the truth. No wonder the 23rd district was the joke of the nation last fall.
He owned a home in Abay for 10 years and one in Watertown for four and where else. Where did he vote? You are implying he voted in Watertown or A Bay over this period of time. Most of us in the North Country cant afford the house we live in let alone two in the North Country, a couple of islands in the ST Lawrence and how many houses elsewhere. He is bought and paid for by untold wealth that controls his every move and thought. Where do you think his alligance will be if elected.
He was working in New York City so he would have to vote in NYC during that time but he has never owned a home or apartment anywhere else. Not even during all those years in New York City. He means it when he says he always considered the north country his home. The fact that he never bought a home in the high status hamptons or an apartment on 5th avenue lends credence to his claim. I would love to have his money and be able to own a home on the st lawrence, but I don't. But I would never hold his success fo wealth against him. Good for him. I think it is great that a local guy was able to do so much for himself after coming from so little. I you want to fault him for his success/money, feel free, but I am just happy that someone from here is willing to give up all that wall street money to come back for what will probably be about a 90% pay cut.
All the bitterness from posters about his money sounds a lot like envy to me. I'm envious too, but the difference is I am proud of him, not suspicious.
So he says he is a lifelong Republican that has voted in every primary and general election? Check what he says-vs-what BOE records show.
9:44am - did you? Obviously not. If you had you would see that that is correct. He has been a voting republican. You people will sstir up all kinds of rumors to try to bring someone down. It is so pointless, especially when your claims are so easily refuted.
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