There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere that suggest the supporters of Big Wind somehow are getting something for their vote.
The process would be easier to understand if it were as simple as a bag of money in a dark corner of a parking lot....
In my 14 years in office, nobody ever offered money or a job in exchange for a vote. Even campaign contributions are not a big deal here in NNY. The county legislators do not have contested races anyway.
One of the motivators in politics is ego and another is a real desire to see your community prosper. To be seen as a "job creator" is important to today's lawmakers even though as Republicans they should know that jobs are created in the private sector not throught government fiat.
I suspect those in favor think they are taking advantage of an opportunity and doing something that will lessen the onerous tax burden on property owners...at least those in a couple of communities.
I feel it is misguided altruism, as this PILOT and tax abatement scheme for Big Wind is the same old saw we hear concerning malls, factories, convention centers, etc.
You know....it will only happen if approved and if you don't people who want to work won't and their families will suffer. If you look at it that way, I guess you vote yes...Nobody wants to hurt someone else...but increasingly, I am skeptical of all these arrangements.
I used to be a believer, but I no longer buy into the government creates jobs mantra. There are times government can be of assistance but most of what passes for economic development is merely subsidy for the well to do....or subsidy for industries and technologies that just can't make it. How much was sunk into local paper mills like Deferiet before the obvious became reality
If a county legislator got in his car and found a bag of money on the seat, at least the vote could be explained.....In the absence of that happening, it's a more inexplicable vote I suspect is based on the frustration of wanting prosperity and figuring doing anything is better than nothing.
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It's all about government,are you lieing to yourself?Figuring doin anything is better than doing nothing is the problem.Wind turbines have been around for a long time is it realy that big of a deal that it can't be worked out, why such urgency... Money&Power
Juston
All the supporting legislators of the PILOT seeking Assembly or Senate campaigns will be crushed!
No one is so naive to think that it takes bags of money left on a car seat. All it takes to woo little politicians in small towns is the buying of lunch, a few beers, a little attention and a hint of future opportunities in higher places. Workshops held by the "Company" in exotic places, helps, too. It is the little things in life, you know...
Or possibly in someone elses case, a job fo your son. Or a bag of money from the IBEW.
Now we know what Rwiley's price is. LOL
I used that as an example,because years ago, when I was on a board I was offered a trip to St. Thomas to a "Company" meeting to get caught up to speed on an huge project involving a massive PILOT that promised 350 jobs. I didn't go, the PILOT was approved and the company is still there in a protected setting with little impact. This Jefferson County PILOT involves a handful of jobs and will impact a huge area.
I have read the application for the PILOT. It asks for everything, promises nothing, and you can't even tell who the hell the PILOT is for. Bogus!
If you used that same application to try to buy a car from the Mayor, he would not be able to give you a loan on a six thousand dollar used car.
The mayor has a side piece, today, about a business that wants to start up a company that promises six jobs.
I am totally ignorant about the project except that it appears to be a relatively small business offering six jobs. But let me remind you that the huge rip and tear, high impact project that turned Wolfe Island into a large wind factory has delivered only 8 jobs.
These wind factories provide insignificant jobs, reduce the value of nearby land, and make huge land masses unattractive to further development.
Mr. Wiley and the Mayor both make valid points....
I don't think any Legislator in Jefferson County is on the take....I do think like the Mayor that those in favor of the Gallo project really see this as an opportunity to lesson the tax burden and create a few jobs---we're elected principally to help the economy these days--weather we really can or not.
I also do see Wiley's points about things that could be done (lunches, beers, attention etc) and these are things we as public officials have to be very wary of...
I don't see high priced N & P atty. Mr. Burgdorf at the Hotel Adams or the Watertown Elks though....it is quite simply beneath him.....
--Shawn Doyle
Oswego County Leg. and wind farm opponent
But Don Alexander's sone works for a wind developer in Lewis County.
How much was sunk into Deferiet paper mill????????
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