Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Open or Not to Open

Today, my good friend Ted Ford and I disagreed about transparency.
I said the GOP should allow public viewing of these candidate screenings so the total Republican electorate can size them up and relay their feelings to the party poobahs who will choose the nominee for the special election for Congress.
Ted says no way. He says its a party choice and public need not know anything until its their time to vote. Now that's a hard core view....I am going to call him Ezra "Rahm" Ford from now on.
Now the Dem process is easy to understand. Send in your name, and then Rep. Steve Israel will pick Darrel Aubertine.
We got some intel on the GOP meeting in Gouverneur last night. Not from the drive-by media, but from a commenter on Scott's...oops on Political IV.

"As for Dede -- she sounded ANGRY. Angry at Jefferson County Legislators, angry at Lewis County Legislators... "Who was there for you when you wanted to raise sales taxes? It was me! I was!"She also came off sounding entitled to the position, which is a definite turn off. "This is the next step in my public service career," she said. And it also sounded like she was calling in all her chips."

Both frontrunners Scozzafava and Matt Doheny were described as nervous, with one Jefferson County lawmaker saying DeDe "was pretty wound up."
Doheny was described by one attendee as on both sides of the abortion issue.
A young guy from Waddington got high marks as a possible future star.
Cap and Trade legislation was a hot topic. I predicted that.
Apparently each county will authorize their county chair to vote on July 22. Each county has a weighted vote. For instance, Jefferson casts 17% of the total.
St. Lawrence 16%, Oswego 20%.
Pressure will be intense especially on folks whom Scozzafava has dealt with in the past.
Ms. Scozzafava has said she will be visiting the Hotline on Friday. I got a lot of questions....but I won't ask about the LifeSaver in downtown Gouverneur.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I was there last night and have to disagree with whoever is your source.

Matt was nervous, jumpy and all over the place. He ust have said look 50 times in 10 minutes. He avoided the question on abortion set the mic down and walked out until a women said you never answered the question. he says I believe in a womens right to choose and ran out.
Wasn't very impressed with him at all. Just said over and over I took bad businesses and turned them around. Yeah so.......

Dede was great, she was aggressive and her point was she has done everything she has been asked by the people she represents. Isn't that why we have elected her for 10years to the state assembly??

Josh is a nice young kid who can read a text book. He repeated the same two qoutes from Ronald Reagan I am sure he got out of his text book. No matter what the question was he used the two same qoutes. Over and Over.

Sorry just how i seen the night from my spot in the back of the room.

Ted Ford said...

Let me elucidate and clarify my position. I feel that given the restricted time frame of a special election Democratic County Chairs should consult with their committeepersons about the choices available. That temperature taking would provide those chairs with sufficient feedback to select a meaningful, bonafide candidate to represent the Party. A 'free for all' unseemly public tussle before the game even begins isn't appropriate. As proof I reference the above comment. The auditions should be intraparty with a high degree of circumspection.
Ted Ford

unseemly, and unwise.

Jeff Graham said...

I am honored Ted reads my humble offerings. As for the other observation from the scene....We need to hear more....Citizen journalists bringing the world what his hidden. Thanx

Anonymous said...

Is it to much to ask for a Conservative Republican front runner? Doheney and Dede are pro choice it sounds like to me. No wonder why we vote for Darrel. He is always more conservative then his opponents.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it is time the Conservative Republicans realize they are out of touch with America. If they don't open to change they will be the 3rd party soon.

Anonymous said...

What do you want to know I will answer the questions on what I saw last night? Just ask?

Dan Francis said...

This post is a bit long, so bear with me:

I'll take you at your word, Jeff and assume Ted Ford said what you posted that he said to you:

RE: Open Process

"Ted says no way. He says its a party choice and public need not know anything until its their time to vote.

Yes it's a 'party choice' we all know that, but to hold such a view as to tell the public, "... shut up, wait, and then vote for our choice, is flat out wrong."

So, when will the DEMS hold a their "screening process?"

Anyway, it's attitudes like Ted's that keep me at odds with the party I've belonged to and yes, supported loyally since 1964.

Some of my views are here (see below).

My Temp Campaign Page

— dan francis

Anonymous said...

So if this guy has so much experience with the economy, why haven't we been blessed with his great ideas already? I'd like to know why he didn't speak up during the Bush administration when the economy was headed for the cliff- oh, I know, he is a WALL ST TRADER!! he was too busy shoveling stimulus money into his own pants pocket to say whoa on spending. I really trust traders....sure I do.

Anonymous said...

Matt isn't a wall street trader, never was. He is a turnaround guy, which is someone who helps troubled companies pull themselves out of bankruptcy. Very different. Also, he has only worked for two wall street firms and neither of them ever took any TARP money, so he has't been "shoveling stimulus money into his own pants pockets" either. You sound a bit misinformed.

Anonymous said...

Ted:

The committee chairs are not elected by the people, therefore are not representing the will of the people like a primary or public forum would.

Dan Francis said...

TF posted a reply to you and few others at the JeffDEM blog page re: MEDIA RELEASE from Drew Mangione vis-a-vis the Roll Call blast at Sen. Darrel.

I have a copy of it and it clearly says 'MEDIA RELEASE'-- it is not just merely a personal response from Mangione in the form of an Email as TF says.

I believe TF is wrong.

Media Release Here

But, people can judge for yourself ... that is if FACTS matter? And, I happen to think facts (and the truth) are critical.

But, hey that's me?

— dmf

Anonymous said...

The selection process used by the 2 parties only favors the 2 parties, not the taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

Hip hip hooray for the political parties - those who "audition" their picks? How's that play in Peoria, I wonder?

What a narrow view to project, let alone a narrow view to hold.

Sad, actually.